BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) No team is going to give up a QB who's proven they can light it up for one they feel may be able to. keep thinking that. It is the NFL. Anything can happen Edited September 24, 2015 by BillsFan-4-Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 keep thinking that. BTW, they dumped Peyton for NO BODY. Remind me, what is Peyton's record the past few seasons in Denver? They dumped Peyton for Luck, what are you on about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 They dumped Peyton for Luck, what are you on about? What guarantee did they have that Luck would be a success? See below BuffaloHokie13, on 24 Sept 2015 - 12:21 PM, said: No team is going to give up a QB who's proven they can light it up for one they feel may be able to. That is exactly what they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 What guarantee did they have that Luck would be a success? See below That is exactly what they did. So Luck is comparable to EJ now and Peyton breaking his spine and being 35 is comparable to a healthy 27 year old Tyrod Taylor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Lobsters Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 rodak also tweeted confusion I think that Rodak is always confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 We won't lose TT if he plays well enough to get a franchise contract. We'd cut every player on the roster first. EJ's development will determine that. I'm not saying you're wrong. But I'm also not willing to sign off on what you saying being absolute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 EJ's development will determine that. I'm not saying you're wrong. But I'm also not willing to sign off on what you saying being absolute. I mean, the odds of Tyrod magically becoming a franchise guy are already pretty low. The odds that both of them become franchise guys? One of them who gets no playing time? If that happens, Doug should play the lottery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) So Luck is comparable to EJ now and Peyton breaking his spine and being 35 is comparable to a healthy 27 year old Tyrod Taylor? You play dumb (a troll) very well. ' 2012*+ DEN QB 13-3-0 2013*+ DEN QB 13-3-0 2014* DEN QB 12-4-0 Yes sir, Indy sure did do the right thing in dumping Old Man Peyton. How much better would Luck be if he sat a year or two behind a HOF QB??? Edited September 24, 2015 by BillsFan-4-Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 You play dumb (a troll) very well. ' 2012*+ DEN QB 13-3-0 2013*+ DEN QB 13-3-0 2014* DEN QB 12-4-0 Yes sir, Indy sure did do the right thing in dumping Old Man Peyton. How much better would Luck be if he sat a year or two behind a HOF QB??? So you're saying that even if Tyrod was 8 years older and coming off neck surgery we shouldn't let him go, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I mean, the odds of Tyrod magically becoming a franchise guy are already pretty low. The odds that both of them become franchise guys? One of them who gets no playing time? If that happens, Doug should play the lottery. Look at Tannehill's contract. That's the a very REAL possibility for TT if he keeps improving. One or both of them don't have to be "franchise" (I hate that term) guys for one to demand more money than he's worth, leading to him being supplanted by a guy who's not a HUGE step down in performance, but an ENORMOUS step down in cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 All I get out of this is we bring Cassel back, mess with EJs head some more then ship him to Dallas for a measley 7th rd pick in 2017. It was evident in pre season that EJ started to make the transition. IMO we should of never ever brought cassel back. I and probably many others have the perception that cassel told the brass I am only coming back if I am the 2. If that is the case, and no one will ever know, then Its the same ole Bills to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) Look at Tannehill's contract. That's the a very REAL possibility for TT if he keeps improving. One or both of them don't have to be "franchise" (I hate that term) guys for one to demand more money than he's worth, leading to him being supplanted by a guy who's not a HUGE step down in performance, but an ENORMOUS step down in cost. That's a real possibility because that's the modern NFL. If Taylor plays like Tanny, he'll get Tann'ys contract. 4k yards, 27 TD's and 12 INT's? Pay that man, full stop. No questions asked, IMO. No matter how good EJ looks in practice. You play dumb (a troll) very well. ' 2012*+ DEN QB 13-3-0 2013*+ DEN QB 13-3-0 2014* DEN QB 12-4-0 Yes sir, Indy sure did do the right thing in dumping Old Man Peyton. How much better would Luck be if he sat a year or two behind a HOF QB??? They have the same playoff record the last 3 years, Luck costs nothing compared to Peyton in that span, and they'll have him for 12 more years, so yeah, they did. Edited September 24, 2015 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 The actual confusing stance was two weeks ago. If EJ had played very well in the pre-season (as evidenced), he should have been made the backup QB. If the Bills wanted to use Casell's experience in breaking down films, they should have said so and made him the 3rd QB (effectively another QB Coach) and clearly let him know about that. They muddled it by giving in to Cassell's demands for being the backup QB. Was it ever confirmed that Cassel demanded the #2 spot as a condition of his signing, or is that conjecture being treated as fact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Was it ever confirmed that Cassel demanded the #2 spot as a condition of his signing, or is that conjecture being treated as fact? I don't know how something like that would ever get reported. It's purely conjecture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Reality bites!! The organization knows that if Tyrod plays lights out they will not be able to afford him when his contract is up. If Tyrod "plays lights out" including playoff appearance(s), we'll figure out a way to pay him. As to the present and future I think yall are reading too much into this. It think he just meant we have 2 young QBs who have played well so we should be good now and into the future. Not necessarily meaning one is present and the other if future IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) So you're saying that even if Tyrod was 8 years older and coming off neck surgery we shouldn't let him go, right? Fine you win! I can't do it any longer !!! Cut TT NOW and let EJ play. They have the same playoff record the last 3 years, Luck costs nothing compared to Peyton in that span, and they'll have him for 12 more years, so yeah, they did. and they both got blown out in the playoffs. Indy vs Seattle, Indy vs Cheaters. These are the same IDIOT Colts that have the same problem when Peyton was there. A QB that slings it and NO supporting cast @ RB or on D. This the NFL - expect dumb things to happen. Edited September 24, 2015 by BillsFan-4-Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Fine you win! I can't do it any longer !!! Cut TT NOW and let EJ play. and they both got blown out in the playoffs. Indy vs Seattle, Indy vs Cheaters. These are the same IDIOT Colts that have the same problem when Peyton was there. A QB that slings it and NO supporting cast @ RB or on D. This the NFL - expect dumb things to happen. So, with equal playoff success, $20 mill in savings and 12 extra career years, you think the Colts made the wrong decision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 So, with equal playoff success, $20 mill in savings and 12 extra career years, you think the Colts made the wrong decision? I do. They could have asked a king's ransom for that pick and used that to build a team around Manning. It may not have been what's best 6-10 years out, but it would have been better in the short run. If course, I'm also of the belief that legends of the game carry more value than a cold calculation reflects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) So, with equal playoff success, $20 mill in savings and 12 extra career years, you think the Colts made the wrong decision? Have they gotten any further? They have a young error prone QB who would have learned behind Peyton. So YES, the Colts made the wrong decision (in cutting Peyton). WRT salary - what are they paying Luck in base salary on his rookie contract? $1 - $2 Mil a year? Edited September 24, 2015 by BillsFan-4-Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Have they gotten any further? They have a young error prone QB who would have learned behind Peyton. So YES, the Colts made the wrong decision (in cutting Peyton). FTR what are / were they paying Luck on his rookie contract? Per Spotrac he's right at 5.5M per year for 2012, 2013, 2014, and 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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