Fadingpain Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Yes, if you live in absolute value world. Apparently it's not possible for the same analyst to say something stupid one day, and something reasonable the next? This aren't huge sweeping plans, where someone's entire philosophy and thought process are fully deployed. These are specific, one-off comments. So, no. There's nothing wrong with us deriding a guy who said we would lose 2 times to the Jets. We knew that was a stupid prediction when we heard it. We didn't know it was a combined 81-26 over 2 games stupid, , but we knew it was stupid. And there's nothing wrong with us agreeing with the same analyst that 12-4 is probabale. If anything TBD is the needle of the compass. Heath said something stupid, and we treated it as such. Now he says something reasonable, and we are treating it as such. You realize his reasonable prediction here is predicated on EJ Manuel holding a clipboard, right? Many of the posters praising this guy and his prediction also love EJ. How is this matter-meets-anti-matter issue resolved in the mind of the Kool Aid drinker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 IMO EJ and Meh are a wash. both should get to 9 or 10 wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 You know what? I have always liked Evans..... CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 You realize his reasonable prediction here is predicated on EJ Manuel holding a clipboard, right? Many of the posters praising this guy and his prediction also love EJ. How is this matter-meets-anti-matter issue resolved in the mind of the Kool Aid drinker? As OC said, it's about not living in a world of absolutes. I like EJ. I think he is our best shot at succeeding, and I hope it clicks for him. If it does, I can surely see him leading us to 9,10,11,12 wins if it all plays out right. If it doesnt click, then it will be on Cassel to do it. Point is, regardless of which QB does it, as long as one of them comes with some "decent" play, the rest of the team should be able to carry us to victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Hater Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 (edited) Keep in mind that he's making this pick with Cassel as the Bills' QB. If Cassel plays close to the Pro Bowl form that he showed when he led the Pats to a 11-5 season then watch out. The Bills have McCoy - difference-maker. They have Watkins - a year older & wiser & a difference-maker. They have Harvin - difference-maker. They have Clay - difference-maker. But beyond all of that they have two really good coaches, Roman on offense and Ryan calling the shots on defense. Ryan knows how to Belichick. He's one of the very few who can match wits with him and he has the players on defense this year to get it done. Roman can take an average to slightly above average QB and make him look better than he is because he spends a lot of time and energy disguising what he's trying to do on offense and keeping things simple for his QB. He made Alex Smith look like a star QB after he was left for dead. He also made C. Kaeperneck look like a stud and I happen to think that Buddy Nix fell in love with manuel as a prospect because of what he saw how Kaeperneck played as a young QB. Ryan vs Marrone - It's not even close. Marrone gave us nothing special as an offensive specialist and was way too conservative as a HC. he was overmatched vs Belichick. Roman vs Hackett - again, not even close. Hackett was a neophyte at the NFL level. I loved his enthusiasm, but he was just feeling his way through games. He had no real insight, no real experience to draw from to help guide many of the younger players. Ryan/Roman have a solid, proven philosophy that works in the NFL. In short, they know what works in specific situations. If we get capable QB play I think 12-4 is very realistic for the reasons mentioned above. This is a myth. Belichick owns Rex. He has been dominant with 9 wins out of 13 games. Not sure why people keep saying this. Yes, he gives them fits here and there, but the vast majority of the time, Belichick wins. Edit: Having said that, Rex is a major improvement on what we had before and I'm hoping for better results from him Edited April 24, 2015 by Jets Hater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwalter Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 This is a myth. Belichick owns Rex. He has been dominant with 9 wins out of 13 games. Not sure why people keep saying this. Yes, he gives them fits here and there, but the vast majority of the time, Belichick wins. Edit: Having said that, Rex is a major improvement on what we had before and I'm hoping for better results from him belichick usually average's something like 12-4 per season, so 9-4 ain't bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 This is a myth. Belichick owns Rex. He has been dominant with 9 wins out of 13 games. Not sure why people keep saying this. Yes, he gives them fits here and there, but the vast majority of the time, Belichick wins. Edit: Having said that, Rex is a major improvement on what we had before and I'm hoping for better results from him I don't have time to find the exact stats, but I read somewhere that Rex Ryan has the best win percentage against Belichick of any coach, and the games he loses are very close games. So yes, he has a losing record against Belichick, but he puts up the biggest fight, and with crappy teams as of late to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 This is a myth. Belichick owns Rex. He has been dominant with 9 wins out of 13 games. Not sure why people keep saying this. Yes, he gives them fits here and there, but the vast majority of the time, Belichick wins. Edit: Having said that, Rex is a major improvement on what we had before and I'm hoping for better results from him What I like is that Rex's teams were consistently in close games with the Pats* despite inferior talent, especially at QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Hater Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 belichick usually average's something like 12-4 per season, so 9-4 ain't bad. I don't have time to find the exact stats, but I read somewhere that Rex Ryan has the best win percentage against Belichick of any coach, and the games he loses are very close games. So yes, he has a losing record against Belichick, but he puts up the biggest fight, and with crappy teams as of late to boot. I agree with both above, but I want wins, not moral victories and so far, Belichick has owned Rex. It's just a fact. Once again, I hope this changes this year. I don't have time to find the exact stats, but I read somewhere that Rex Ryan has the best win percentage against Belichick of any coach, and the games he loses are very close games. So yes, he has a losing record against Belichick, but he puts up the biggest fight, and with crappy teams as of late to boot. Harbauch with the Ravens has a better % . I think that if you would ask them, he would be their #1 pain in the b***. Rex is probably on the list, but not as much as we make it sound or would like too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I agree with both above, but I want wins, not moral victories and so far, Belichick has owned Rex. It's just a fact. Once again, I hope this changes this year. Harbauch with the Ravens has a better % . I think that if you would ask them, he would be their #1 pain in the b***. Rex is probably on the list, but not as much as we make it sound or would like too. Maybe, I don't know if it counts postseason. 2nd best against Belichick is certainly not bad either though. I think you have to give Rex a little credit for taking it to the Pats, especially last year with that squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Hater Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Maybe, I don't know if it counts postseason. 2nd best against Belichick is certainly not bad either though. I think you have to give Rex a little credit for taking it to the Pats, especially last year with that squad. I do give Rex credit, especially with his team last year. He lost both games but he was close. I want to start dominating NE from now on. 4 Super bowls for Brady and BB is 4 too many in my book ! I know I can't wait to take the division from them.12 out of 14 is ridiculous. It needs to stop . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Rex is going to have this defense playing at a dominant level at the beginning of this season. Like we might hold Indy and NE to under 20 points...Combined! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Hater Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Rex is going to have this defense playing at a dominant level at the beginning of this season. Like we might hold Indy and NE to under 20 points...Combined! If we hold NE's offense to 10 pts, I'll be doing some cartwheels ( and I'm way too old for it ) Can't remember the last time they didn't score more than 14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 If we hold NE's offense to 10 pts, I'll be doing some cartwheels ( and I'm way too old for it ) Can't remember the last time they didn't score more than 14. Well we held them to 6 in the first half in week 17 last year, 9 total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 (edited) Well we held them to 6 in the first half in week 17 last year, 9 total. Short term memory loss is a sad, sad thing. , I know they weren't all-in ... Just sayin' Edited April 24, 2015 by MOVALLEYRANDY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Hater Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 (edited) Well we held them to 6 in the first half in week 17 last year, 9 total. Yeah..That game. I meant in a game that they had something to play for. But you are right. We held them in the 1st half. Edited April 24, 2015 by Jets Hater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Yeah..That game. There's no way to know how into it they were, but if you watched the game, Tommy looked pretty upset by the end of the 1st half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 There's no way to know how into it they were, but if you watched the game, Tommy looked pretty upset by the end of the 1st half. Yeah I can't imagine Tom Brady would not be trying. There is an argument for Gronk and others being out, but Brady doesn't ever want to lose. Didn't they have him doing 4th down scrambles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Hater Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 There's no way to know how into it they were, but if you watched the game, Tommy looked pretty upset by the end of the 1st half. Of course I watched. But you do understand what I was trying to say. Holding that team to 10 pts is a major accomplishment and I would be psyched if it happens in week # 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Of course I watched. But you do understand what I was trying to say. Holding that team to 10 pts is a major accomplishment and I would be psyched if it happens in week # 2 For sure. I'd love to see our average points allowed per game drop under 17 personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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