scribo Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Ha http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/charles-clay?id=2495139 I love that, and it illustrates what Joe Rose said in that interview: Clay improved more between year one and year two than anyone else he's ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Just like Chandler , No? Just like Chandler? No. Punctuation is fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivermont Mike Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I've got a nickname for Clay: First Down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I don't get it. 2014 season stats similar to Chandler. Career stats similar to Chandler. Clay=Chandler, yet we're paying Clay 4-5X what we would have paid Chandler. I'll call my shot right now. Scott Chandler will have a better 2015 season than Charles Clay. This was a terrible move by the Bills front office. In what parallel universe is Clay worth 4-5X of Chandler? I just don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 not entirely relevant to your thread, but holy sh*t: our wr coach, sanjay lal, who john murphy had on the show, is a total psychopath. http://www.buffalobills.com/video/audio/Sanjay-LalMost-competitive-guy-Ive-been-around/511ba8d7-4f7e-4b02-93d3-60bc68425ec2 now I need to hear this..., thanks for posting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I don't get it. 2014 season stats similar to Chandler. Career stats similar to Chandler. Clay=Chandler, yet we're paying Clay 4-5X what we would have paid Chandler. I'll call my shot right now. Scott Chandler will have a better 2015 season than Charles Clay. This was a terrible move by the Bills front office. In what parallel universe is Clay worth 4-5X of Chandler? I just don't get it. Maybe because you're not watching football? If you were, you'd see that Clay is far superior than Chandler. Or maybe because you don't understand stats only tell part of the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Maybe because you're not watching football? If you were, you'd see that Clay is far superior than Chandler. Or maybe because you don't understand stats only tell part of the story. Is Clay is far superior to Chandler, how has he not shown that in any of his 5 seasons? He LOOKS better than Chandler, but I tend to be swayed by actual results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Is Clay is far superior to Chandler, how has he not shown that in any of his 5 seasons? He LOOKS better than Chandler, but I tend to be swayed by actual results. There are a thousand examples that show stats can be VERY misleading. Are you aware Charles Clay was voted by his peers as one of the top 100 players in the entire league in 2013? He was injured last year but played through. Wait until he is use to his full potential this year. If not, the following is definitely worth the watch for someone wondering why Clay is so highly regarded by people who actually know football and don't just dwell on stats. 'Top 100 Players of 2014': Charles Clay - NFL Videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 There are a thousand examples that show stats can be VERY misleading. Are you aware Charles Clay was voted by his peers as one of the top 100 players in the entire league in 2013? He was injured last year but played through. Wait until he is use to his full potential this year. If not, the following is definitely worth the watch for someone wondering why Clay is so highly regarded by people who actually know football and don't just dwell on stats. 'Top 100 Players of 2014': Charles Clay - NFL Videos So we spent $24M for the next 2 years on potential. For that money, Clay better be a 1000+ yard receiver on this team. I don't see that happening. If it does, I'll come back and eat my crow. I just don't see any way Clay has a Gronk-type season with the QB's we have. I still think Chandler with Brady outplays Clay on the Bills in 2015. But according to you, I don't know football. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 So we spent $24M for the next 2 years on potential. For that money, Clay better be a 1000+ yard receiver on this team. I don't see that happening. If it does, I'll come back and eat my crow. I just don't see any way Clay has a Gronk-type season with the QB's we have. I still think Chandler with Brady outplays Clay on the Bills in 2015. But according to you, I don't know football. We'll see. Your expectations for Clay are not the Bills' expectations for Clay. It's that simple. You will be disappointed. I won't go so far as to say you don't know football, but it is clear you don't understand why the Bills targeted Clay over keeping Chandler, and how they expect to use him in this offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Your expectations for Clay are not the Bills' expectations for Clay. It's that simple. You will be disappointed. I won't go so far as to say you don't know football, but it is clear you don't understand why the Bills targeted Clay over keeping Chandler, and how they expect to use him in this offense. Enlighten me. Please. I'm really trying to understand this move and I just don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Joe Rose was really enthusiastic about Clay in that interview with Murph. Considering that Rose used to be play TE in the NFL himself, Rose made me enthusiastic. And the highlights back him up. Clay isn't just beating LBs, sometimes he's beating CBs. And while not super-fast, Clay has a combination of speed, agility and strength that make him dangerous after the catch. Thanks for the links! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Enlighten me. Please. I'm really trying to understand this move and I just don't get it. Here you go. Read this post from Kelly the Dog in the other Clay thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I don't get it. 2014 season stats similar to Chandler. Career stats similar to Chandler. Clay=Chandler, yet we're paying Clay 4-5X what we would have paid Chandler. I'll call my shot right now. Scott Chandler will have a better 2015 season than Charles Clay. This was a terrible move by the Bills front office. In what parallel universe is Clay worth 4-5X of Chandler? I just don't get it. You're right. You don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Here you go. Read this post from Kelly the Dog in the other Clay thread. That's worth $12M this year? DAYUM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 That's worth $12M this year? DAYUM! No, you're right... We should have kept Chandler and been worse just to get a bargain! Winning is secondary to frugal spending! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 That's worth $12M this year? DAYUM! Ok, so maybe you do know less about football than I gave you credit for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Ok, so maybe you do know less about football than I gave you credit for. Dude, take a joke, sheesh. No, you're right... We should have kept Chandler and been worse just to get a bargain! Winning is secondary to frugal spending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Just like Chandler? No. Punctuation is fun. Yes, it surely is ! and thank you for playing along : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Dude, take a joke, sheesh. I think Clay is exactly what Roman needs to run a very deceptive offense. It will be a game of " identify the mismatch , if you can ". and thats all the while pounding the snot out of the ball. Just waiting for the defenses to come down. I hope you can be patient enough and see what the season brings , the dynamics and the personnel available as big play makers is the best group i recall. For the Bills in a rather long time.I am excited as heck and Clay is that last piece that makes it just crazy to defend. But i will wait and see before i pronounce them world beaters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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