eball Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 ...how do you sell that to the players on D? Now, granted, I realize you don't have to sell them on anything -- they are professionals under contract. Setting that aside, however, does anyone think it would create problems in "the room?" "Hey guys, we just finished the season with a top 5 defense and held Manning, Rodgers, and Brady without a TD pass over our last four games...but we don't think Schwartz is the guy to be our HC and we hired another defensive guy we like." I guess all would be fine and dandy, but still... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Just as tough a sell as when greggo came here. We had maybe the no. 5 defense, and he blew it up and changed the scheme, telling everyone,"well, I had the no. 2 defense in Tennessee." I actually think some players accepted that or at least claimed to accept it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 That is a tough sell, it's a good question but I sense they're selling the HC job as a package with Schwartz in. If the guy going in is smart he'll take it, even if he is a defensive minded coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 The Bills declined the Skins' request to interview him for DC so they clearly want him to stay in at least the DC capacity. If I'm the Bills FO, with Schwartz already in the fold I hold out for a Quinn or Bevell, whichever agrees to keep Schwartz as a full charge DC. If either of them decline, I have a fallback in Schwartz as HC, maybe with Pepper as DC and a Trestman as OC. Not sure how Schwartz could decline either scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I would think unless they are blown away, a DC other than Schwartz is unlikely. If Schwartz has a convincing plan on offense and has a line on a great offensive staff, then he is likely the favorite. Otherwise, it makes most sense to hire an offensive mind with Schwartz as AHC\DC. If there is an offensive guy out there who wants to completely revamp the defense, I would question their decision making and I think it would be a clear red flag against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 You can NOT base your decision on who the next head coach of the Buffalo Bills will be based on Jim Schwartz's reaction. This team hasn't made the playoffs in forever. Jim Schwartz had his shot at being a HC and should be very thankful he's in a great position being the DC of the best defense in the NFL. If he gets upset that a guy like Dan Quinn or another DC in the league is getting the Bills head coaching job and he's not getting it then he can leave. A monkey could coach our defense to a top 5 next year. It's time this team act like the Steelers and Ravens franchises and pick the best candidate, not who the obvious and most convenient replacement would be to go with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 5, 2015 Author Share Posted January 5, 2015 @1billsfan...that's not the question. Read my post again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 You sell it by telling the players "nothing will change" and make sure the new HC knows that. Then toss some more money Jim's way. But I really hope it's not a defensive-minded HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Good question, and it's for that reason that I'm hoping for either an offensive-minded HC who keeps the defensive staff intact, or Rex Ryan. In Ryan's case, I don't think there would be many problems either in terms of selling the new coach/scheme to the players or in terms of actual performance. The D was mostly the same personnel in 2013 and 2014, and Ryan's disciple Pettine did quite a good job with it in 2013. I won't exactly be excited if Schwartz winds up as the HC, but I won't totally hate it. He certainly deserves to be a candidate after the year his defense had. He did at least make the playoffs once in Detroit, and unlike Jauron, I think that was a legit playoff team, not just a lucky string of victories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadbeef Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 If Schwartz becomes HC he won't be inheriting a 0-16 team like he did in Detroit. We definitely need a top DC or defensive coach. That was the problem under Gaily. Monkeys like Wannstedt couldn't get good production out the D. Without an elite quarterback the secret to winning is tough D, and run the ball. The recipe for 2015 should be simple: don't screw up the D, get a good O-line coach and fix the line, draft a RB to compete with the others. A good offensive coach or Schwartz with a good OC and staff... I wonder how many bills have been in the same D system under the same DC for consecutive years. I think its only Kyle Williams. Maybe McKelvin. Thats not good. They should improve a lot with consistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Kevin Massare @KevinMassare 7m7 minutes ago Based on what I'm hearing, the bills are only interviewing candidates with the hope of keeping Schwartz. Will go a long way to picking HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 5, 2015 Author Share Posted January 5, 2015 Kevin Massare @KevinMassare 7m7 minutes ago Based on what I'm hearing, the bills are only interviewing candidates with the hope of keeping Schwartz. Will go a long way to picking HC. Probably trying to learn from the Bears' mistake -- they wanted to keep Marinelli as DC but ignored his input regarding HC candidates and he bolted for Dallas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Probably trying to learn from the Bears' mistake -- they wanted to keep Marinelli as DC but ignored his input regarding HC candidates and he bolted for Dallas. Yep, I read about that too. Huge mistake by Bears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Kevin Massare @KevinMassare 7m7 minutes ago Based on what I'm hearing, the bills are only interviewing candidates with the hope of keeping Schwartz. Will go a long way to picking HC. Good decision, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonprophet Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Just as tough a sell as when greggo came here. We had maybe the no. 5 defense, and he blew it up and changed the scheme, telling everyone,"well, I had the no. 2 defense in Tennessee." I actually think some players accepted that or at least claimed to accept it.It was worse than that because the Bills had the #3 defense and the Titans the #1 and those rankings were probably only a few ball bounces from being flipped.Mike Tomlin is smarter than Greggo because, even though he's a 4-3 coach also, he kept the Steeler's 3-4 in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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