Rob's House Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I'm not a big stats guy so take it FWIW, but statistically he's on pace for a pretty good season. INTs are a little high, but pretty good overall. Of course, Orton's stats aren't half bad either. Depending on how each guy does down the stretch (mostly looking to see if Orton fades or picks it up) he may be worth looking into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 (edited) Adding Jay Cutler guarantees your offense will regress in terms of sacks and turnovers and likely be top 5 to top 10 in those categories. Adding Jay Cutler will be severely detrimental to this offense, especially the o-line which is struggling as an entire unit since Marrone took over. I'm not a big stats guy so take it FWIW, but statistically he's on pace for a pretty good season. INTs are a little high, but pretty good overall. Of course, Orton's stats aren't half bad either. Depending on how each guy does down the stretch (mostly looking to see if Orton fades or picks it up) he may be worth looking into. You will put up numbers when you are throwing 38-49 times consistently. The key to this is not turning the ball over and getting sacked in the process (which puts your defense and offense in tough in-game situations) . The premium QB's are capable of both. Cutler is far from a premier QB IMO. Edited December 7, 2014 by BuffaloBillsForever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I would take him and sign a guard. That's playoffs right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 (edited) Adding Jay Cutler guarantees your offense will regress in terms of sacks and turnovers and likely be top 5 to top 10 in those categories. Adding Jay Cutler will be severely detrimental to this offense, especially the o-line which is struggling as an entire unit since Marrone took over. You will put up numbers when you are throwing 38-49 times consistently. The key to this is not turning the ball over and getting sacked in the process (which puts your defense and offense in tough in-game situations) . The premium QB's are capable of both. Cutler is far from a premier QB IMO. Andrew Luck has 4 less INT's and 8 less sacks across 12 games. Edited December 7, 2014 by What a Tuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I would take him and sign a guard. That's playoffs right there. But a one-and-done run though... Kinda like your fantasy team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Andrew Luck has 4 less INT's and 8 less sacks across 12 games. That's a lot...think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 (edited) That's a lot...think about it. Not really. Are we really saying #1 QB in the league or Orton? I mean if Cutler isn't good enough for us, who is? Edit: Would you have a problem with it if the contract wasn't so heavy? Edited December 7, 2014 by What a Tuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 But a one-and-done run though... Kinda like your fantasy team. I don't know, Cutler could get hot and have a Flacco/Eli like run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Little Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 But a one-and-done run though... Kinda like your fantasy team. One and done > adding another year to the drought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 (edited) Not really. Are we really saying #1 QB in the league or Orton? I mean if Cutler isn't good enough for us, who is? Edit: Would you have a problem with it if the contract wasn't so heavy? Also look at his sack totals throughout his career. Cutler would be a total disaster with our personnel and current coaching regardless of his contract. But with a cap hit of 16.5 and 17 million in 2015 and 2016...it is just stupid. Edited December 7, 2014 by BuffaloBillsForever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I don't know, Cutler could get hot and have a Flacco/Eli like run. He could, my personal interest in Cutler coming to Buffalo would revolve around his cap number. If they can get him on the cheap with a contract that would be easy to walk away from after a season or two, I'd be more interested. At his current number I'd be less inclined as I don't think Cutler's leadership style (or lack thereof) would go over well in this Buffalo locker room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 (edited) He could, my personal interest in Cutler coming to Buffalo would revolve around his cap number. If they can get him on the cheap with a contract that would be easy to walk away from after a season or two, I'd be more interested. At his current number I'd be less inclined as I don't think Cutler's leadership style (or lack thereof) would go over well in this Buffalo locker room. It would be a cap hit of around 16-17 million for the next 2 years. You might be able to get out after that. Edited December 7, 2014 by BuffaloBillsForever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 (edited) It would be a cap hit of around 16-17 million for the next 4 years. Waaaay too much for a guy with a propensity for inopportune turnovers. We've lived through Fitz, barely, we don't need a more expensive reprise. If they get him to restructure or get Chicago to eat most of it, then sure. Edited December 7, 2014 by GreggyT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Little Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 It would be a cap hit of around 16-17 million for the next 4 years. Guaranteed money expires after 2016. Two-year stopgap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Guaranteed money expires after 2016. Two-year stopgap. Yeah it was a typo. What is the speculation on what they want in return for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Cutler's stats look better due to garbage time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Cutler's stats look better due to garbage time. Or worse because they are always playing from behind Wins - 11 tds 2 ints Losses - 15 tds 13 ints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Or worse because they are always playing from behind Wins - 11 tds 2 ints Losses - 15 tds 13 ints What's crazy is that cutler threw close to 50 times in the Bills game. The crazier thing is that cutler still shows signs of horrible mechanics to this day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC2002 Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Or worse because they are always playing from behind Wins - 11 tds 2 ints Losses - 15 tds 13 ints Cutler just throws picks it does not matter whether they are winning or behind . Hes had the same issues the entire time hes been with the bears regardless of defense and they have fired and overhauled their entire offense around him and he still does it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 No. Let me count a few reasons why - very very inconsistent - whiny , blame-everything-else attitude - winless against major division opponent Packers - one playoff appearance - to many iINTs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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