Dibs Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 By who? Coaches, media & fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 That most likely is the case......but it doesn't change the concept that the day before we lost we were widely considered to have 3 starter calibre CBs. By who? That's the line of thinking by the Bills' coaching staff as stated several times by Marrone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share Posted September 22, 2014 (edited) That's the line of thinking by the Bills' coaching staff as stated several times by Marrone. He has to protect his players. I don't blame him for that way of thinking. Edited September 22, 2014 by BuffaloBillsForever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Coaches, media & fans. all 3 guys would get regular reps on most rosters. none have separated themselves with revis/peterson/sherman type play -- but there are a lot of starting corners, and not a lot of those guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 all 3 guys would get regular reps on most rosters. none have separated themselves with revis/peterson/sherman type play -- but there are a lot of starting corners, and not a lot of those guys. That is exactly what I meant. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share Posted September 22, 2014 all 3 guys would get regular reps on most rosters. none have separated themselves with revis/peterson/sherman type play -- but there are a lot of starting corners, and not a lot of those guys. I would surmise McKelvin wouldn't be getting regular reps on the defensive side of the ball on most teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I would surmise McKelvin wouldn't be getting regular reps on the defensive side of the ball on most teams. After his performance last season, I would surmise that you are wrong. He may have regressed.....but based on last season alone he would be slated as a starter on many, many teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Gilmore is a good corner. Teams don't throw his way. Look at the targets. Teams are throwing at Grahm and Mckelvin and not at Gilmore. Why is that? This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I would surmise McKelvin wouldn't be getting regular reps on the defensive side of the ball on most teams. i would surmise that you would be surprised watching other teams week in and week out. fans would be frustrated, but a lot of fan bases are frustrated as there arent near 64 corners (forget that nickel is base for most so 96 corners) that play up to "starting corner" expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I have not read through this thread at all but considering the title I had to share this perspective ... Listening to Cleveland radio today and they are trashing Joe Haden as well. They have been very down on Justin Gilbert as well, their top pick, but give him more of a pass being a rookie. They are saying the rules are hurting Haden and he is crazy overrated and overpaid. They also referenced that Pettine requires his corners to be solid in his D and while that could work in Buffalo, they just don't have the same quality of speed and coverage ability with the Browns. Made me laugh at the dichotomy, not saying they are right. I thought Gilmore played well week 2 and ok yesterday. McK has been ok. I don't think either are great, nor are they terrible. Graham has been the best of the 3 thru 3 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonprophet Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 (edited) A good QB makes CBs look bad. I think the expectations here are a little unrealistic as to what a CB is supposed to do. You could have the greatest DBs ever but WRs will still get open at times. If have a great QB with the skill to see that there isn't much you can do. +1 This game reminds me of that shootout at Candlestick Park in the 90s between the Bills with Kelly at QB and the 49ers with Young at QB; each team's D shut down the other's running game but neither team's secondary could stop the opposing team's passing game and the Bills won because they were the last team to score before time ran out. We needed EJ to play at a level approaching Rivers' in order to win that game but he's just not there. Edited September 22, 2014 by nonprophet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share Posted September 22, 2014 (edited) i would surmise that you would be surprised watching other teams week in and week out. fans would be frustrated, but a lot of fan bases are frustrated as there arent near 64 corners (forget that nickel is base for most so 96 corners) that play up to "starting corner" expectations. I am not a casual fan who only watches the Bills. I watch a lot of football and he is plain and simply a bad CB who would be a rotational CB/ depth CB on the majority of rosters. He definitely wouldn't be #2 on the depth chart that is for sure. Edited September 22, 2014 by BuffaloBillsForever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 @JonahJavad: Looking at tape from #Bills #Chargers. Nickell Robey burned on Floyd deep ball. Gilmore gets screened on 1st SD TD. Ron Brooks beat on 2nd. ...in fairness to Gilmore, he was blocked before the ball was caught so no chance at defending the pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Corey Graham is currently PFF's top overall CB in the NFL. Also, tops in coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Corey Graham is currently PFF's top overall CB in the NFL. Also, tops in coverage. you have to imagine he will come down to earth a little, and the others will improve some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 (edited) @JonahJavad: Looking at tape from #Bills #Chargers. Nickell Robey burned on Floyd deep ball. Gilmore gets screened on 1st SD TD. Ron Brooks beat on 2nd. ...in fairness to Gilmore, he was blocked before the ball was caught so no chance at defending the pass He wasn't burned, he was illegally picked by Allen and it should have been an OPI call by the refs. Edited September 22, 2014 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 (edited) Here is a terrible CB play for comparison...lol @BranninWGL: Let's all take a moment and pray for Janoris Jenkins this morning. https:// vine.co/v/O7A5UMQ9igK Edited September 22, 2014 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 He wasn't burned, he was illegally picked by Allen and it should have been an OPI call by the refs. Yep -- and the outside receiver was clearly blocking Gilmore before the pass was completed to Royal on the first San Diego TD. That one was blatant and should have been an OPI call as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 San Diego is a great team. Great DB's give up plays all the time in this league. The rules are too one sided. DB's need a pass rush and there was none today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Tough to look good when your ferocious front four generate no pass rush... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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