Buffalo_Stampede Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 (edited) Rivers is terrible, ask any Giants fan. Invisible man on the field. It's like playing defense with 10 players. Their Defense finished ahead of ours. Rivers is not Terrible, he is average. Our Lb core is still better than it was last year at this time. Edited July 11, 2014 by TheTruthHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 (edited) Their Defense finished ahead of ours. Rivers is not Terrible, he is average. Our Lb core is still better than it was last year at this time. Exactly, its the giants offense that was so bad last year. People also don't realuze rivers was having a good rookie season (#2 in tackles for Bengals) until that d%#@he ward blindsided him and broke his jaw. IMO he's never been quite the same since. Let's hope he hits his maximum stride again here in buffalo. Edited July 11, 2014 by Joe_the_6_pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derelichte Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 I hope Hughes doesn't turn into the next Mark Anderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 (edited) Odd factoid: if rivers and Lawson start @lb in 4-3, 2 of our 3 starting lb's will be former 1st round bengals picks Edited July 11, 2014 by Joe_the_6_pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Odd factoid: if rivers and Lawson start @lb in 4-3, 2 of our 3 starting lb's will be former 1st round bengals picks Lawson was drafted by the 49ers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Lawson was drafted by the 49ers. Good catch, sorry man. I knew was a 1st round and just assumed it was Bengals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Good catch, sorry man. I knew was a 1st round and just assumed it was Bengals. I only remembered because he came from the same school, 1st round & D-line as Mario & McCargo......and of course we drafted the worst of the three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 (edited) I only remembered because he came from the same school, 1st round & D-line as Mario & McCargo......and of course we drafted the worst of the three. I hated the mccargo pick. BTW on paper our front 7 looks stacked: #1 overall pick #3 overall pick #9 overall pick #22 overall pick #31 overall pick 2nd round pick The one pick outside of the first 2 rounds has been to 2 Pro bowls Edited July 11, 2014 by Joe_the_6_pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryCletus Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Odd factoid: if rivers and Lawson start @lb in 4-3, 2 of our 3 starting lb's will be former 1st round bengals picks Never happen, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Rivers is pretty terrible. Hope a young player beats him out or were in trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 I'd rather see Bradham WOLB Preston Brown MLB, and Manny Lawson SOLB- Without Kiko I really worry about Spikes lack of range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 (edited) There has been one constant throughout Rivers' career: almost no production. In 6 years he has made hardly any plays: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RiveKe99.htm . He's the very definition of a below average NFL player. Edited July 12, 2014 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 There has been one constant throughout Rivers' career: almost no production. In 6 years he has made hardly any plays: http://www.pro-footb.../R/RiveKe99.htm . He's the very definition of a below average NFL player. Please recall Jerry Hughes, who had five sacks in three years with the colts. Rivers doesn't seem promising at this moment, but lets see what we can do with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 (edited) There has been one constant throughout Rivers' career: almost no production. In 6 years he has made hardly any plays: http://www.pro-footb.../R/RiveKe99.htm . He's the very definition of a below average NFL player. He wont get you beat and wont make players. We lost that playmaker potential in Kiko. Other guys need to step up. Kiko's biggest loss will be in coverage. I think the DBs will be the ones filling the void rather than the LBs. Every playoff team last year lost a great player. There are no excuses in the NFL, Bills will have to adjust. Edited July 12, 2014 by TheTruthHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Please recall Jerry Hughes, who had five sacks in three years with the colts. Rivers doesn't seem promising at this moment, but lets see what we can do with him. Rivers has bounced around and has been in the league for a half dozen years. At a certain point, leopards don't change their spots. He's a below-average player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Rivers has bounced around and has been in the league for a half dozen years. At a certain point, leopards don't change their spots. He's a below-average player. Rivers' rookie season was going really well, but that injury obviously ended his season and has had some sort of effect on his future play. I suppose comparing him to Hughes isn't exactly fair, but I do think we should have a little faith in him, or at least the staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 13, 2014 Author Share Posted July 13, 2014 (edited) Rivers is pretty terrible. Hope a young player beats him out or were in trouble I only saw him play in Cincy and he looked pretty good to me. Not an all-pro obviously, but a decent OLB. Didn't do a deep dive into the all-22 or anything, because not a fan of the team. Didn't watch much of the NYG defense but I know they were put in some bad positions by the offense. What I do know is that Whaley, for his lack of experience in college scouting (I am sure Monos runs that show), he has been impressive with his pro scouting and his background attributes that. He isn't perfect (no GM is) and the LG situation from last year shows that. But they do seem to react quickly when they realize mistakes and try to correct. My point is, they have a ton of research on why they think Rivers fits what this defense is going to do and it is pretty complicated IMO when that analysis takes place. So let's see how that works out. They never intended him to start at WLB, but if he does, it will mean he is our best option. Edited July 13, 2014 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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