Beerball Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Me too. Or Tajh Boyd/Logan Thomas in 5/7. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/the-case-for-logan-thomas-as-nfl-draft-s-most-intriguing-qb-prospect----more-pro-ready-than-cam-newton-was-in-2011--214727831-nfl.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 He played in 11 games in 2013. He had 7 passing TDs and 11 INTs. That was his 3rd season in the league. What about his rushing TD's? Have you seen the Raiders roster? Can you name a defensive starter beyond Woodson, Roach and Branch? Let's not act like the Raiders are a QB away from being a playoff team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 What about his rushing TD's? Have you seen the Raiders roster? Can you name a defensive starter beyond Woodson, Roach and Branch? Let's not act like the Raiders are a QB away from being a playoff team. I love that you make excuses for Pryor, a 3rd year player, yet you constantly destroy EJ, a rookie. And who cares about the little fact the EJ had better passing numbers across the board than Pryor? Hypocrite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 (edited) I love that you make excuses for Pryor, a 3rd year player, yet you constantly destroy EJ, a rookie. And who cares about the little fact the EJ had better passing numbers across the board than Pryor? Hypocrite. I didn't want him to start unless he earned the job. It's tough to make excuses for EJ when he has low numbers on a much better team. I would go as far as saying that the 2013 Bills were more talented at every single position compared to the Raiders. Except QB. Show me where I have ever "destroyed" EJ. You shouldn't hyperbolize so much, it looks foolish. Edited April 22, 2014 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 I didn't want him to start unless he earned the job. It's tough to make excuses for EJ when he has low numbers on a much better team. I would go as far as saying that the 2013 Bills were more talented at every single position compared to the Raiders. Except QB. Again, EJ Manuel as a rookie outplayed a 3rd year QB. Missing 2 weeks of his first training camp and a month of his first season. EJ Manuel had one of his best games without his 2 best wrs against one of the best defensive coaches in the NFL. EJ Manuel had a 112 QB rating last preseason. Yet, you defend Pryor and bash EJ. Yeah, you're not a crusade here at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Again, EJ Manuel as a rookie outplayed a 3rd year QB. Missing 2 weeks of his first training camp and a month of his first season. EJ Manuel had one of his best games without his 2 best wrs against one of the best defensive coaches in the NFL. EJ Manuel had a 112 QB rating last preseason. Yet, you defend Pryor and bash EJ. Yeah, you're not a crusade here at all. Still waiting for my proof of EJ bashing. Otherwise, you're wasting your time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 I didn't want him to start unless he earned the job. It's tough to make excuses for EJ when he has low numbers on a much better team. I would go as far as saying that the 2013 Bills were more talented at every single position compared to the Raiders. Except QB. Show me where I have ever "destroyed" EJ. You shouldn't hyperbolize so much, it looks foolish. You think TP is a more talented QB than EJ Manuel? What about his rushing TD's? Have you seen the Raiders roster? Can you name a defensive starter beyond Woodson, Roach and Branch? Let's not act like the Raiders are a QB away from being a playoff team. Are they the ones that threw all those picks? Yes he has 2 rushing TDs. He should have had more considering that's his one trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 You think TP is a more talented QB than EJ Manuel? Are they the ones that threw all those picks? Yes he has 2 rushing TDs. He should have had more considering that's his one trick. I think the QB position is up in the air. I think it's possible that some other QB will be better than EJ. I also think it's possible EJ will be better than other QB's. Whether the other QB's are Thad, Tuel, Pryor or a 2014 rookie is unknown. And no, they didn't throw those picks. I'm not saying Pryor was perfect or even great last year. I'm saying if you put him on a different roster with more talent, he'd probably do better. And who knows how much better. When the downside is a 7th round pick that has horrific odds of even making the roster, it's an easy decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 (edited) I think the QB position is up in the air. I think it's possible that some other QB will be better than EJ. I also think it's possible EJ will be better than other QB's. Whether the other QB's are Thad, Tuel, Pryor or a 2014 rookie is unknown. And no, they didn't throw those picks. I'm not saying Pryor was perfect or even great last year. I'm saying if you put him on a different roster with more talent, he'd probably do better. And who knows how much better. When the downside is a 7th round pick that has horrific odds of even making the roster, it's an easy decision. I am admittedly biased and it clouds all objectivity on T Peezy. I don't know if a 7th rd pick could make the team but that pick may contribute on ST or maybe that is where they could land a punter. I don't think TP is better than Thad and don't think he has the makeup of a starting QB either on many levels, which makes it unlikely he would unseat EJ. JMO. He would be better than Tuel from a QB potential perspective, I will concede, but wouldn't be willing to give up a pick for that considering all the negatives he brings, IMO. Seattle is a good place for him. Carroll recruited him in HS. I see your points, just agree to disagree that Bills should have tried to trade for him. Edited April 22, 2014 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 another "lets pick up garbage QB" thread? No... not around here.... it has to be intentional at this point. Nobody in their right mind would post such a stupid idea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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