26CornerBlitz Posted November 17, 2013 Author Share Posted November 17, 2013 EJ still threw the "out" all day long until he hit tj and the Goodwin on some long ones, those 2 were nice but that's exactly what Edwards used to do, throw short all day and then sneak a go route in for a TD here or there. WHERE are the intermediate routes? he threw none today, he looks like crap to me actually. why should I feel better about him exactly? tuel hit Goodwin for the same exact td the other week. The enlightener...... :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John in Jax Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 I'm not sure who gave up on manuel.....but he threw one near 6 pick....underthrew graham by a mile on that TD etc etc. He was OK today. This is always what happens on this board. Legit criticism for a player who hasnt shown us much. Then he has a decent game...and out come the ' oh how do feel now (name that player) criticizers'. So I guess we cant criticize a guy and make judgments in fear of having them play a 'decent' game. Smacks of Kelsay, Fitz...on and on and on. EJ did look better today. GOOD!!! Lets see him continue with the progress. This game was won by the D. And EJ had a few good passes. Congrats on the long ball to Marquise. EJ still threw the "out" all day long until he hit tj and the Goodwin on some long ones, those 2 were nice but that's exactly what Edwards used to do, throw short all day and then sneak a go route in for a TD here or there. WHERE are the intermediate routes? he threw none today, he looks like crap to me actually. why should I feel better about him exactly? Tuel hit Goodwin for the same exact TD the other week. Agree with both posts above. Like it or not, they're accurate and factual. Realist here; sorry. Now, I thoroughly enjoyed the W today, and it was fun being a Bills fan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 (edited) EJ still threw the "out" all day long until he hit tj and the Goodwin on some long ones, those 2 were nice but that's exactly what Edwards used to do, throw short all day and then sneak a go route in for a TD here or there. WHERE are the intermediate routes? he threw none today, he looks like crap to me actually. why should I feel better about him exactly? tuel hit Goodwin for the same exact td the other week. Been saying that all year, it's either a 3 yard pass or a bomb. Where are the 15-20 yard passes And what is the deal with screen passes? Bills were great at them last year but have trouble even completing the pass this year Edited November 17, 2013 by Max997 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Been saying that all year, it's either a 3 yard pass or a bomb. Where are the 15-20 yard passes Slipping through the fingers of Scott Chandler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Slipping through the fingers of Scott Chandler. And the one he caught. And how about the 10-15 yard hitch routes Manuel threw to Goodwin. Guess those go under 3 yard passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 17, 2013 Author Share Posted November 17, 2013 (edited) Slipping through the fingers of Scott Chandler. Many of Chandler's & Robert Woods' catches have been in the intermediate range in the middle of the field. Anyone who says otherwise hasn't been watching the Bills or just doesn't know football...Maybe both. Edited November 17, 2013 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enlightener Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Many of Chandler's & Robert Woods' catches have been in the intermediate range in the middle of the field. Anyone who says otherwise hasn't been watching the Bills or just doesn't know football...Maybe both. they are almost all to the flat/sidline. watch the replay and stop kidding yourself , watch pittsburg again and youll see every pass is an out or short hitch. today he had a couple 9 yard type hitches- WOW!. where are the crossing routes? slants even? hes afraid of the middle, like trent or any other qb who cant read a defense. Just saying,, watch and youll see this yourself, not that im rooting against ej but its true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 If you are going to give up on a rookie after 5 starts then you are crazy. Or if you are going to proclaim him as the savior after today's game then you are also crazy. We can't evaluate Manuel until he's at least had a full season where he comes in to preseason as the starter. Let's see where he is at this time next year before we start freaking out. He clearly outplayed Geno so out of all of the rookie qb's he's the best IMO so at least we got the best guy in the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryce Paup Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Not many "gave up" on EJM. We want to see progress. Today he did really well. I'm sure everyone is happy. Exactly buddy.. We were just tired of mediocrity and today he showed promise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Agree with both posts above. Like it or not, they're accurate and factual. Realist here; sorry. Now, I thoroughly enjoyed the W today, and it was fun being a Bills fan! lol@"he looks like crap to me" being referred to as "accurate and factual". This board is so silly on game days. Many of Chandler's & Robert Woods' catches have been in the intermediate range in the middle of the field. Anyone who says otherwise hasn't been watching the Bills or just doesn't know football...Maybe both. Agreed. they are almost all to the flat/sidline. watch the replay and stop kidding yourself , watch pittsburg again and youll see every pass is an out or short hitch. today he had a couple 9 yard type hitches- WOW!. where are the crossing routes? slants even? hes afraid of the middle, like trent or any other qb who cant read a defense. Just saying,, watch and youll see this yourself, not that im rooting against ej but its true. lol, the standard "disclaimer" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alias Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 (edited) Prior to Pittsburgh, EJ's body of work looked OK for a rookie. Then at Pittsburgh he looked like an unmitigated disaster. Today he looked very good for a rookie. When he is able to put two good performances back-to-back, my lying eyes will sense progress. Edited November 17, 2013 by alias Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 17, 2013 Author Share Posted November 17, 2013 (edited) they are almost all to the flat/sidline. watch the replay and stop kidding yourself , watch pittsburg again and youll see every pass is an out or short hitch. today he had a couple 9 yard type hitches- WOW!. where are the crossing routes? slants even? hes afraid of the middle, like trent or any other qb who cant read a defense. Just saying,, watch and youll see this yourself, not that im rooting against ej but its true. Was he afraid of the middle on this play? http://www.nfl.com/v...oint-conversion Edited November 17, 2013 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Anyone who changed their mind this week who based their judgement on last week's performance is literally mentally ill, and should seek professional help. This! for the mercurial (and if you have to look it up, it's you!) Buffalo Bills TBD posters calling for Tuel, to draft a QB, etc., etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoo poonani Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 What say you now? Excellent accuracy all day long on all types of throws - short, intermediate, and long. One game does not make a season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 No doubt, he looked good today, but the play calling was improved which shows that Marrone/Hackett are learning. QB sneaks, giving to fullback on goal line, end around to keep D honest, and taking shots downfield, especially with Goodwin, who is really blossoming. EJ made the throws and looked composed out there, let's hope he keeps it up for the rest of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 17, 2013 Author Share Posted November 17, 2013 One game does not make a season Who's going to argue with that? Certainly not me. More resume building to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Well I didn't see EJ make any ints, sacks, hurries or knockdowns. Unless he stole a #1 from Jairus. He managed well w/o two weapons and no ground game. But make no mistake the defense sure made his job easier. I am undecided on him due to a small sample size. He played well today. But this was a team win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Well, I'll eat crow on this one. He really showed us something today. Very proud of EJ. A big stepping stone for him today. Happy..happy ..happy ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobblehead Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I want to keep going with EJ. He showed that he's worth continuing the process. Jury is still out of course, even drafting a QB next year if there is a good one available is ok, but EJ answered the bell today, something to be proud of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkgobills Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 It was encouraging to see EJ complete a variety of passes in tough weather conditions. 20-28 and two TDs in 20 + mph winds is impressive by any measure. He showed the arm to drive the ball through the wind. However, my favorite pass he threw all day was a touch pass to a RB where he had to throw it over a defender and drop it into the hands of the RB with the pass rusher in his face. I don't think the play amounted to anything of significance but it showed great touch, poise and awareness of the offense by EJ. Skepticism regarding EJ's play will rightly remain in place, as today's game was the best game he has played in the past two seasons (including college). If he continues to show the ability to deliver accurate deep sideline throws (by that I mean not 10 yards out of bounds) and as an earlier poster said the "ability to do the little things" over the remainder of the season, he will show that he is developing into a true franchise QB. If today's game was an aberration and the remainder of the season looks like previous games, he is not the answer. To answer the original posters question, I feel the same about him now as I have all year. I have my doubts, I keep rooting for him, and today he rewarded us with his best showing of the season. I want him to be the answer at QB, because I want the Bills to win. If he is not the answer at QB we are that much further away from winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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