B-Man Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration - has released data showing that US temps have not risen in the last decade and have, in fact, dropped. From Forbes: Responding to widespread criticism that its temperature station readings were corrupted by poor siting issues and suspect adjustments, NOAA established a network of 114 pristinely sited temperature stations spread out fairly uniformly throughout the United States. Because the network, known as the U.S. Climate Reference Network (USCRN), is so uniformly and pristinely situated, the temperature data require no adjustments to provide an accurate nationwide temperature record. USCRN began compiling temperature data in January 2005. Now, nearly a decade later, NOAA has finally made the USCRN temperature readings available. According to the USCRN temperature readings, U.S. temperatures are not rising at all – at least not since the network became operational 10 years ago. Instead, the United States has cooled by approximately 0.4 degrees Celsius, which is more than half of the claimed global warming of the twentieth century. The decline in the US matches what we know about the temperature stagnation occurring all over the planet for the last 17 years: Second, for those who may point out U.S. temperatures do not equate to global temperatures, the USCRN data are entirely consistent with – and indeed lend additional evidentiary support for – the global warming stagnation of the past 17-plus years. While objective temperature data show there has been no global warming since sometime last century, the USCRN data confirm this ongoing stagnation in the United States, also. Third, the USCRN data debunk claims that rising U.S. temperatures caused wildfires, droughts, or other extreme weather events during the past year. The objective data show droughts, wildfires, and other extreme weather events have become less frequent and severe in recent decades as our planet modestly warms. But even ignoring such objective data, it is difficult to claim global warming is causing recent U.S. droughts and wildfires when U.S. temperatures are a full 0.4 degrees Celsius colder than they were in 2005. Even more importantly than the facts above, the USCRN provides the promise of reliable nationwide temperature data for years to come. No longer will global warming alarmists be able to hide behind thinly veiled excuses to doctor the U.S. temperature record. Now, thanks to the USCRN, the data are what the data are. It should go without saying that this data will change no one's mind or deter the administration from trying to implement their CO2 policies anyway. They ignore inconvenient facts and spout their hysteria anyway. In that sense, it doesn't matter what the science is. Politics is driving this debate now and the goal will be to marginalize skeptics with ridicule and name calling. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 That NOAA data isn't worth crap. The extra heat the planet is accumulating is being hidden where the "scientists" are not looking. NOAA is just staffed with a bunch of lying climate change deniers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Where is the link to the Forbes article? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Where is the link to the Forbes article? Did you check Forbes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 My mistake. http://www.forbes.co...e-long-cooling/ The link to the N.O.A.A. info is in the original post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Did you check Forbes? Did you check Forbes? No. You are suppose to provide a link to stuff you post. My mistake. http://www.forbes.co...e-long-cooling/ The link to the N.O.A.A. info is in the original post Total BS article. He doesn't even deny global warming just nibbles at the edges to make the "alarmist" look unreliable. He doesn't link to the actual study but links to another Forbes talking Conservative head who argues that, what he claims happened just in the last 12 months shows GW is no big deal. Its just nonsensical, but what do you expect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Since Global Warming is claptrap I fully expect republicans to take on the insurance industry http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-linden-insurance-climate-change-20140617-story.html and the U.S. navy http://greenfleet.dodlive.mil/files/2014/02/USN-Arctic-Roadmap-2014.pdf no sense having the people pay for fake science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Since Global Warming is claptrap I fully expect republicans to take on the insurance industry http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-linden-insurance-climate-change-20140617-story.html and the U.S. navy http://greenfleet.dodlive.mil/files/2014/02/USN-Arctic-Roadmap-2014.pdf no sense having the people pay for fake science. Oh, the Tin Foil hats will say insurance people are just after higher premiums and Navy wants more funding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Oh, the Tin Foil hats will say insurance people are just after higher premiums and Navy wants more funding. There are very few real tin hats in congress, most are well paid skeptics with a good dose of "Après moi, le déluge" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Since Global Warming is claptrap I fully expect republicans to take on the insurance industry http://www.latimes.c...0617-story.html That is some of the most alarmist claptrap I've read in a long time. Miami's already turning in to Venice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 That is some of the most alarmist claptrap I've read in a long time. Miami's already turning in to Venice? So it's not in the process of turning that way? When does that process begin? A" Miami skateboarder is propelled by the winds from hurricane Wilma in 2005. Photograph: Brian Snyder/Reuters Clear skies above but water below, a woman on a moped navigates a flooded street corner on Miami Beach, an all-too-familiar sign for residents of this iconic peninsula where the ocean seems more likely than ever to swamp Ocean Drive one day. If there's an image that starkly illustrates the threats of climate change, it's this photograph, which was included in the recent National Climate Assessment released by the White House. It is noteworthy because the flood is from exceptionally high spring tides – not heavy rains. Tidal flooding like that is relatively new. And scary. "People in Miami Beach are living climate change," said David Nolan, a meteorology and physical oceanography professor at the University of Miami. "They're on the frontline."" http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/17/climate-change-global-warming-miami-floods-hurricanes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 So it's not in the process of turning that way? When does that process begin? A" Miami skateboarder is propelled by the winds from hurricane Wilma in 2005. Photograph: Brian Snyder/Reuters Clear skies above but water below, a woman on a moped navigates a flooded street corner on Miami Beach, an all-too-familiar sign for residents of this iconic peninsula where the ocean seems more likely than ever to swamp Ocean Drive one day. If there's an image that starkly illustrates the threats of climate change, it's this photograph, which was included in the recent National Climate Assessment released by the White House. It is noteworthy because the flood is from exceptionally high spring tides – not heavy rains. Tidal flooding like that is relatively new. And scary. "People in Miami Beach are living climate change," said David Nolan, a meteorology and physical oceanography professor at the University of Miami. "They're on the frontline."" http://www.theguardi...oods-hurricanes Ah, yes. The Skateboards of Venice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Ah, yes. The Skateboards of Venice. Band Name ! I call it. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Ah, yes. The Skateboards of Venice. You don't deny man made global warming, you just attack those that want to do something about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 You don't deny man made global warming, you just attack those that want to do something about it Seriously, what are your proposals for doing something about global warming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Seriously, what are your proposals for doing something about global warming? This sounds like a job for a hashtag! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 This about the mentality I'd expect from the climate warming is a hoax crowd http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/07/rolling-coal-conservatives-screw-obama-by-modifying-trucks-to-spew-toxic-black-smoke/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 You don't deny man made global warming, you just attack those that want to do something about it No, I attack those that say stupidly alarmist **** and call it "science." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Physicist Offers $30,000 Reward To Anyone Who Can Disprove Climate Change “I have heard global warming skeptics make all sorts of statements about how the science doesn’t support claims of man-made climate change,” Keating announced on his blog. “I have found all of those statements to be empty and without any kind of supporting evidence. I have, in turn, stated that it is not possible for the skeptics to prove their claims. And, I’m willing to put my money where my mouth is.” http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/07/02/physicist-offers-30000-reward-to-anyone-who-can-disprove-climate-change/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Seriously, what are your proposals for doing something about global warming? This sounds like a job for a hashtag! :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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