Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I am waiting to hear some story about an undisclosed cooney injury. He went from being very capable to being a 15% three-point shooter. Something happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Ennis not that good IMO. This is just pure silliness here. Ennis is without a doubt the best true freshman point guard in the country with a very high ceiling at the next level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Btw, Syracuse made 2 jump shots the entire game. Amazing they almost won with that kind of performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Btw, Syracuse made 2 jump shots the entire game. Amazing they almost won with that kind of performance. Yup. Not their night / month. Still, I don't care what anyone says, I love that Ennis and JB went for the win at the end rather than the tie even with the way they were shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Yup. Not their night / month. Still, I don't care what anyone says, I love that Ennis and JB went for the win at the end rather than the tie even with the way they were shooting. I agree. I have no problem with that last shot. I did think Ennis could have gotten a better shot when we were den 55-54, but won't hold that against him. I do hope Ennis comes back. He could use another year, and it would be nice to have more depth at guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I agree. I have no problem with that last shot. I did think Ennis could have gotten a better shot when we were den 55-54, but won't hold that against him. I do hope Ennis comes back. He could use another year, and it would be nice to have more depth at guard. I'm with you there. I hope he comes back too, but I doubt he will unless he feels missing that shot leaves some "unfinished business" in March -- there's always that hope. But he's a lottery pick this year, with another year he might be a top 5 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 This is just pure silliness here. Ennis is without a doubt the best true freshman point guard in the country with a very high ceiling at the next level. He's put up a few clunkers. He's good but his jumper isn't. I'll buy some Ennis stock if he stays and improves a little on the offensive end. If not he will prob struggle at the next level jmo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 He's put up a few clunkers. He's good but his jumper isn't. I'll buy some Ennis stock if he stays and improves a little on the offensive end. If not he will prob struggle at the next level jmo. I'm guessing as much as you are obviously as I'm in no way an expert talent evaluator. But what I see when I watch Ennis play is a guy who just understands the game and isn't phased by anything he sees on the court. Considering he's a true freshman, that's a rare trait and one that is usually found in guys who excell at the next level. He's big enough, great hands, sees all the angles on the floor and has the speed to beat his man off the first step. He doesn't score as much as he's capable of, mainly because he's a true PG and not a Westbrook type score first kinda guy. I'd be willing to bet if he comes out, he's a lock for a top 10 pick. But I do agree with you and JR that another season would only help him. I hope he comes back, missing a shot like that yesterday might be enough to make him return... I can hope, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 But hasn't the NBA moved on from true point guards? Stockton may be the last true one. The league is now geared more for the MCW style point guard...looks to score almost as much as looking to direct the floor...I don't see that in Ennis yet. I'm guessing as much as you are obviously as I'm in no way an expert talent evaluator. But what I see when I watch Ennis play is a guy who just understands the game and isn't phased by anything he sees on the court. Considering he's a true freshman, that's a rare trait and one that is usually found in guys who excell at the next level. He's big enough, great hands, sees all the angles on the floor and has the speed to beat his man off the first step. He doesn't score as much as he's capable of, mainly because he's a true PG and not a Westbrook type score first kinda guy. I'd be willing to bet if he comes out, he's a lock for a top 10 pick. But I do agree with you and JR that another season would only help him. I hope he comes back, missing a shot like that yesterday might be enough to make him return... I can hope, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 But hasn't the NBA moved on from true point guards? Stockton may be the last true one. The league is now geared more for the MCW style point guard...looks to score almost as much as looking to direct the floor...I don't see that in Ennis yet. I think Chris Paul would disagree with the belief that Stockton was the last true point guard:) But yes, you are right combo guards are becoming the norm. I think it's due to the rise in point forwards who really are the "franchise QBs" of the NBA. You don't think Ennis has shown enough scoring ability? I agree he isn't aggressive enough to be classified as a scorer -- but when he has taken the initiative he's been really lethal driving the lane or outside jumpers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 I don't follow SU all that much, because I'm too busy following my Bonnies (my undergrad trumps my grad school). But, is that white guy named something like Tony McIntyre really Tyler Ennis' father? Why would he have a different last name? He's got to be his step father, isn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 I don't follow SU all that much, because I'm too busy following my Bonnies (my undergrad trumps my grad school). But, is that white guy named something like Tony McIntyre really Tyler Ennis' father? Why would he have a different last name? He's got to be his step father, isn't he? Ennis is light skinned enough to be bi-racial. Lots of kids these days have the name of one parent only. Perhaps his parents aren't married. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 yeah CP3 was definitely in my mind when i typed that, but CP3 is a feared scorer as well as a floor leader. No one really 'fears' Ennis' scoring aggression....yet, he certainly has shown he can when he needs to but the NBA doesn't seem to be a league that looks for that. I think part of me is trying to convince myself he is not NBA material just yet...it's a weak argument right now, but i am trying hard to convince myself of it.... I think Chris Paul would disagree with the belief that Stockton was the last true point guard:) But yes, you are right combo guards are becoming the norm. I think it's due to the rise in point forwards who really are the "franchise QBs" of the NBA. You don't think Ennis has shown enough scoring ability? I agree he isn't aggressive enough to be classified as a scorer -- but when he has taken the initiative he's been really lethal driving the lane or outside jumpers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Cp3 has a deadly pretty much automatic midrange jumper. Ennis has some tools for sure, but he's no rondo and only rondo can get away without having a jumper. Ricky Rubio is gonna get phased out soon over his inability to shoot, it got Kendall Marshall fired his first go round. Whose everyone pulling for now as the Cuse and the heels are out ? Just watched a sobbing Marcus Paige interview, poor kid taking the loss as his fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 with SU & VCU out i have lost interest Cp3 has a deadly pretty much automatic midrange jumper. Ennis has some tools for sure, but he's no rondo and only rondo can get away without having a jumper. Ricky Rubio is gonna get phased out soon over his inability to shoot, it got Kendall Marshall fired his first go round. Whose everyone pulling for now as the Cuse and the heels are out ? Just watched a sobbing Marcus Paige interview, poor kid taking the loss as his fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) with SU & VCU out i have lost interest Those are my two favorite teams to watch play. With them out, I was rooting for Wichita State to have an undefeated season. That went up in smoke. I guess I'm rooting for Stanford or Michigan State now. I like Izzo so I can get on board with them. Edited March 24, 2014 by KikoSeeBallKikoGetBall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 I'm rooting for Virginia. Keep it in the ACC, and I really like their coach. The play great defense, and really sound, fundamental offense. It would be nice to see them cut down the nets IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 their fans have quickly escalated to the annoyance level of in-state rival Tech...no thanks...they have one good season and they all of a sudden become fans... I'm rooting for Virginia. Keep it in the ACC, and I really like their coach. The play great defense, and really sound, fundamental offense. It would be nice to see them cut down the nets IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Ennis is light skinned enough to be bi-racial. Lots of kids these days have the name of one parent only. Perhaps his parents aren't married. It seems like when the parents are together, even if not married, the kid gets the father's name. Usually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 their fans have quickly escalated to the annoyance level of in-state rival Tech...no thanks...they have one good season and they all of a sudden become fans... Interesting. I frequent a Cuse hoops message board, and there have been a bunch of UVA goons trolling on there this year. Assumed it was just a few d-bags. The only fans I really despise are YUKON fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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