GG Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Talk about mixed up logic in bashing 49ers belief in Kaepernick. The main goal of pursuing Manning was to solidify the QB position for the SuperBowl run. It was more of a knock on Smith than Kaep. Yes, he was on the roster, but it's reasonable that Harbaugh didn't think he would be ready so soon. The pursuit of Manning is very logical. He has about two years left in the tank, after which, you hand the reigns over to Kaep. Besides, Smith was set to become a UFA in March and that's why 49er's pursued Manning. The linear logic in this thread is perfect experience for the Bills' front office. Post your applications at OBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 A few things... 1. Remember that the the 2nd round of the draft commenced the day after the 1st round concluded, so teams had overnight to re-asses prior to making their pick. The Bills were picking #2 in the second round, so it is possible that as they were doing their last-minute reviews that night, perhaps they tipped their hand that they were interested in Aaron Williams, given that they were not in a position of hoping he fell several spots to them. 2. The wording about the Bills' and other teams' lack of interest is interesting. I suspect that King may have indeed put his own spin on that. He seems to like the wine-and-cheese crowd, which explains his infatuation with the Pats and 49ers. In many ways, his assessment is illogical. Just because the Bills may or may not have been interested in a certain player, that does not mean that another team wouldn't trade up into their spot if they liked a that player. 3. I heard recently that Harbaugh had a bit of an inside scoop on Kaepernick. Apparently Andrew Luck attended a QB school back in 2011 along with a number of other college prospects. Harbaugh asked Luck which of the QBs at the school really stood out, and Luck couldn't say enough great things about Kaepernick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 +1 With the rookie pay scale, I am fully on board with taking QBs each year until we find our own 'elite' qb. I couldn't agree more, NC. I wish it would have started last year, but nonetheless, I don't care if they draft a QB in one of the first two rounds this year and he "seems OK" in 2013...still draft one in 2014 in the first two rounds until you are sure you have your man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 A lot of BS. I guess you can say the Bills spend a ton of money on Fitz, so they likely won't spend another high pick on a guy. at the same time, the 49ers believed so much in Kaepernick that they tried to sign Manning and re-signed Smith. 20-20. Exactly. The 49ers thought that Kaep was such a no-brainer that they waited until the 2nd round to draft him. Much the same way the seawawks were so high on Wilson that they waited until the 3rd round to get him as well. Sometimes a little luck is required as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Is it possible to injure your football IQ and instincts? Too many concussions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 (edited) Talk about mixed up logic in bashing 49ers belief in Kaepernick. The main goal of pursuing Manning was to solidify the QB position for the SuperBowl run. It was more of a knock on Smith than Kaep. Yes, he was on the roster, but it's reasonable that Harbaugh didn't think he would be ready so soon. The pursuit of Manning is very logical. He has about two years left in the tank, after which, you hand the reigns over to Kaep. Besides, Smith was set to become a UFA in March and that's why 49er's pursued Manning. The linear logic in this thread is perfect experience for the Bills' front office. Post your applications at OBD. You don't know to much about the type of contract Peyton got do you? Specifically the guarantees. http://www.sbnation.com/2012-nfl-free-agency/2012/3/20/2887461/peyton-manning-contract-denver-broncos But your right they wanted Kaepernick to take over from Manning in 2014...... Edited January 30, 2013 by mob16151 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 98% of all secrets are revealed the same way: Alcohol. I thought it was good looking interns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I thought it was good looking interns? Alcohol makes 98% of interns look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Alcohol makes 98% of interns look good. Also, why go to the liquor store when you can send the intern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 You don't know to much about the type of contract Peyton got do you? Specifically the guarantees. http://www.sbnation....-denver-broncos But your right they wanted Kaepernick to take over from Manning in 2014...... Yeah, it's effectively a 3yr deal at $19mil/year. How's that different from what I wrote? I can argue that one reason that 49ers backed away was because they didn't want Manning to sign for more than two years, and he insisted on a 3-year guaranty, and Broncos blinked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 From Peter King's MMQB this AM: Baalke knew the Bills weren't going to take Kaepernick or Dalton at 34, and he figured Cincy would take Dalton at 35. Peter King reported leading up to the 2011 draft that Buffalo was a "black hole" of information. Unlike teams that attempt to use subterfuge, the Bills buttoned up completely that year. Yet, how did SF and presumably other teams needing a QB know the Bills would not take either Kaepernick or Dalton? I was in Vegas...after a night of heavy drinking and stepping on and spraining my ankle on a 5 year old walking out of New York New York... I remember the Bills war room being excited on drafting A. Williams and thinks WTF? Why are they so excited It was then...I has to reassure myself as a Bills fan that: A) I'm not a GM B) I'm not knowledgable on drafting a player in real life C) that I wanted the guy from Wisconsin who played college ball at Nevada D) A. Williams might be a good pick C) spelling and punctuation is not my specialty... Alas my screen name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Yeah, it's effectively a 3yr deal at $19mil/year. How's that different from what I wrote? I can argue that one reason that 49ers backed away was because they didn't want Manning to sign for more than two years, and he insisted on a 3-year guaranty, and Broncos blinked. Because if your convinced a guy is your future at QB you dont sit him on the bench for 4 years. Aaron Rodgers didn't even sit that long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 if our gm was as bright as the 49ers gm we would have kaepernick. drafting is a skill some have it some don't. heres to hoping we get it right this year. trade up for Geno and everything else will fall into place IMO. obviously they werent all in, signing Alex Smith to a multi-year deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Since 1999 the Bills have drafted 2 QBs: JP Losman & Levi Brown. I'd say there's a 100% chance we draft a QB in '13. In 2011 Fitzpatrick had just come off a mildly successful 2010 where he went for 23tds & 15ints in 13 games. The idea was if Fitz could cut down his picks and throw a few more tds we'd be back in the playoffs. Don't forget Trent Edwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 a great D, great coach, and a really good supporting offensive cast. None of which the Bills had. It amazes me how so many 'knowledgeable' posters forget to include this point in their rant about passing on a QB. The Bills had (and have) holes all over the roster. Adding a rookie QB without the supporting cast gets you Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Jimmy Clausen, Brady Quinn, Matt Leinart, Jason Campbell, David Carr, Joey Harrington..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Don't forget Trent Edwards. Damn you! I'd almost forgotten about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Damn you! I'd almost forgotten about that. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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