Estelle Getty Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Haven't posted in a while so i'll keep this short and sweet. No Playoffs since 1999. 5 different coaches 3 different general managers 2 Legitimate attempts @ Franchise QB's (Bledsoe, Losman) 1 out of touch OWNER We will never be a sucessfull orgnazation untill Ralph Wilson is gone. Point, blank, period. So until then accept the fact we are just biding our time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Well, that's a refreshing perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Been saying it for years. The common denominator for the entire history of the franchise is RW. Unfortunately I have doubts we'll get to see another owner here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's in My Blood Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Haven't posted in a while so i'll keep this short and sweet. No Playoffs since 1999. 5 different coaches 3 different general managers 2 Legitimate attempts @ Franchise QB's (Bledsoe, Losman) 1 out of touch OWNER We will never be a sucessfull orgnazation untill Ralph Wilson is gone. Point, blank, period. So until then accept the fact we are just biding our time. Thank you for your original thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Well, that's a refreshing perspective. That's funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I think you missed the 4. It goes: 5 4 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHFO Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I just want you to remember...you asked for it. 4 Super Bowl losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I think you missed the 4. It goes: 5 4 3 2 1 Amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Hey. How bout it. Another thread where people can't wait for Ralph to die. That's original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hater Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Don't we have a Thread Like this one very week too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Don't we have a Thread Like this one very week too usually 2 or 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 You hype up your return with this thread? I feel the same way I did after I watched Donald Trump's "major announcement" a couple weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Fong Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I think Ralph is definitely a big part of the problem. Mainly by the thrifty way that he has run the organization. He has shown a willingness to dive into big ticket free agents when they are needed, but I get the impression that funding that is needed to run a top flight organization has been missing for years. The problem that the Bills face is they've made their coaching situation so unappealing that they can't even get any top candidates in there to turn the ship around. At this point the only hope is that you hit the lottery on a young up and comer that is eager to make a name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Been saying it for years. The common denominator for the entire history of the franchise is RW. Unfortunately I have doubts we'll get to see another owner here. In the entire history of the franchise we got to 4 straight Super Bowls. The thread is about the common denominator since 1999. The one that was subtly mentioned in the opening post is obviously true....the owner has been the same over that period of time. The other major common denominators that I see is: 1. The lack of a long term competent QB. Who know? Perhaps with a good QB we might well have made the playoffs in the last decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Getty Posted November 13, 2012 Author Share Posted November 13, 2012 That is my point. We could have Tom Brady as a QB and he would have ended up like J.P. Losman. We would not have been able to have a good QB because we wouldn't have had a good coach. We wouldn't have had a good coach because we wouldn't have had a good G.M. We wouldn't have had a good G.M. because we don't have a good owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 That is my point. We could have Tom Brady as a QB and he would have ended up like J.P. Losman. We would not have been able to have a good QB because we wouldn't have had a good coach. We wouldn't have had a good coach because we wouldn't have had a good G.M. We wouldn't have had a good G.M. because we don't have a good owner. You don't think perhaps that the talent of the QB has something to do with their ability to be good? Had any of our discarded QBs gone on to be even mediocre in other teams I would give your point some credence. As it is I disagree with the concept that every HC, OC, and QB Coach we have had in the last decade have ruined every QB to walk though our doors. Essentially some bad teams with bad GMs & Coaches still have very good QBs....and still(therefore?) make the playoffs. Blame the organization(Ralph) for not getting better Talent Scouts/Assessors if you like....that would IMO be a better argument as to why we haven't had any real talent at QB in over a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanofFredJackson Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 In the entire history of the franchise we got to 4 straight Super Bowls. The thread is about the common denominator since 1999. The one that was subtly mentioned in the opening post is obviously true....the owner has been the same over that period of time. The other major common denominators that I see is: 1. The lack of a long term competent QB. Who know? Perhaps with a good QB we might well have made the playoffs in the last decade. The main reason why the Bill's were able to get to four Super Bowls was Bill Polian, then Ralph Wilson fired him, at which time Polian left and took the Carolina Panthers to a Super Bowl and then left for Indy and took them to the Super Bowl. Bill also was a winner when he assembled Grey Cup winning teams with the Montreal Alouettes and Winnipeg Blue Bombers. Bill has been a winner where ever he went. Ralphy sure blew it when he fired this man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Haven't posted in a while so i'll keep this short and sweet. No Playoffs since 1999. 5 different coaches 3 different general managers 2 Legitimate attempts @ Franchise QB's (Bledsoe, Losman) 1 out of touch OWNER We will never be a sucessfull orgnazation untill Ralph Wilson is gone. Point, blank, period. So until then accept the fact we are just biding our time. Wow. That was truly insightful. Please revert to not posting again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logical Reasoning Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Haven't posted in a while so i'll keep this short and sweet. No Playoffs since 1999. 5 different coaches 3 different general managers 2 Legitimate attempts @ Franchise QB's (Bledsoe, Losman) 1 out of touch OWNER We will never be a sucessfull orgnazation untill Ralph Wilson is gone. Point, blank, period. So until then accept the fact we are just biding our time. "Point, blank, period." is not a complete sentence and your thoughts about a lone conclusion need some refinement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 You just came to this conclusion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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