In-A-Gadda-Levitre Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 (edited) Its amazing how efficient the FBI was to investigate and present this in just hours, when it had only been going on a day or two. Obama runs a tight ship. agreed that the timing is suspect, but look at it another way. How long, from the time an FBI agent looked at 1 of the emails sent to this other woman, realized it was sent from the General's account, got access to that account, and read the other emails detailing their affair? Less than an hour I'm guessing. From there, it was all about how much top secret info was compromised and that could have taken a few days. We're not talking about rocket science here. EDIT: I was wrong on the 2nd part, the investigation had been ongoing for months, due diligence no doubt The law enforcement officials did not provide an exact timeline for the investigation, but they said the inquiry started several months ago. They said investigators thought they were dealing with a routine harassment case until some communications were traced to a private e-mail account belonging to Petraeus. This article also points out that it all came out on Election Night, and the President was told on Thursday. Yeah, it was all carefully designed to avoid embarrassing the sitting President. Maybe, maybe not. Edited November 11, 2012 by In-A-Gadda-Levitre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Its amazing how efficient the FBI was to investigate and present this in just hours, when it had only been going on a day or two. Obama runs a tight ship. Now if only the Obama administration were as focused on America's enemies as they are on American citizens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 There's little doubt that there's double dealing going on here. Could be the firm wanted Petreus out fast. Broadwell might have been placed next to him like cheese near a mouse. Obama like Bush before him is just a useful idiot to some in power. No wonder Romney was torpedoed. We might have witnessed the most bodacious coup in earth's history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 what the !@#$ is the cia and fbi doing spying on Petraeus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In-A-Gadda-Levitre Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 what the !@#$ is the cia and fbi doing spying on Petraeus? are you being sarcastic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 agreed that the timing is suspect, but look at it another way. How long, from the time an FBI agent looked at 1 of the emails sent to this other woman, realized it was sent from the General's account, got access to that account, and read the other emails detailing their affair? Less than an hour I'm guessing. From there, it was all about how much top secret info was compromised and that could have taken a few days. We're not talking about rocket science here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted November 12, 2012 Author Share Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) there's another woman, supposedly close to the General. Broadwell sent her threatening emails, the FBI got involved. Traced them to the General's personal Gmail account, saw sexual email, figured out the affair. link She's been identified as Jill Kelley, whose admitted to a "friendship" with him. Early read sounds like it was platonic, which makes broadwell out to be that much more of a wacko for threatening her http://m.heraldsun.com.au/news/jill-kelley-admits-friendship-with-former-cia-director-david-petraeus/story-e6frf7jo-1226515048717 Edited November 12, 2012 by Joe_the_6_pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted November 12, 2012 Author Share Posted November 12, 2012 There's little doubt that there's double dealing going on here. Could be the firm wanted Petreus out fast. Broadwell might have been placed next to him like cheese near a mouse. Obama like Bush before him is just a useful idiot to some in power. No wonder Romney was torpedoed. We might have witnessed the most bodacious coup in earth's history. Broad wells dad is saying there's a lot more to it. Could just be blowing smoke too: But Broadwell’s father said Sunday his daughter is the victim of character assassination and implied the bombshell story is just a smoke screen for something bigger. “This is about something else entirely, and the truth will come out,” Broadwell’s dad, Paul Krantz, told the Daily News outside his home in Bismarck, N.D. “There is a lot more that is going to come out,” said Krantz, claiming he was not allowed to elaborate. “You wait and see. There’s a lot more here than meets the eye.” He said he supports his daughter “100%.” Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ap-source-target-emails-petraeus-paramour-state-department-military-liaison-article-1.1200299#ixzz2BzXLVXcq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted November 13, 2012 Author Share Posted November 13, 2012 Plot thickening with another top ranking defense official involved: PERTH, Australia — Gen. John Allen, the top American and NATO commander in Afghanistan, is under investigation for what a senior defense official said early Tuesday was “inappropriate communication” with Jill Kelley, the woman in Tampa, Florida who was seen as a rival for David H. Petraeus’s attentions by Paula Broadwell, who had an extramarital affair with Mr. Petraeus. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/14/us/top-us-commander-in-afghanistan-is-linked-to-petraeus-scandal.html ------------------- Pure speculation on my part, Allen was having an affair with Kelley, which broadwell knew of. When broad well saw Kelley close to petraeus she assumed Kelley had similar intentions, and responded with the threatening emails. But appears she over reacted because Kelley was not having an affair with petraeus .... in any case sounds like a freaking mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Petraeus's infidelity was his own affair We've lost too many competent figures to the altar of 'family values'. Fidelity is a lifestyle choice, it is not the law What business is it of any of us or his supervisors in Congress that David Petraeus had an affair? The former general was forced to resign as director of the CIA after the FBI discovered that he had been romantically involved with his biographer Paula Broadwell for four years. Adultery may not be agreeable to many in our increasingly moralising climate, but we should leave judgment and punishment to those on whom his acts directly impact: his wife of 38 years and his family. His personal dalliances (or as he diplomatically called them in his apology, his "mistakes") are not a matter for public concern. His position was not to serve as a role model. His role as director of the CIA was to provide direction for collecting, evaluating and correlating national intelligence for the US. There is no prerequisite for a squeaky-clean lifestyle behind the public scenes. Yes, he occupied a public post. But he has a right to a private life, private interests and private judgment calls. Yes, the affair came to light during an investigation by the FBI into a potential security breach, but the investigation concluded there was no breach and the "classified information" that Broadwell allegedly came into contact with is not thought to have come from Petraeus. ... Sadly, Americans are even more righteous than Britons when it comes to preserving the image of public figures. Bill Clinton's "lapse in judgment" with Monica Lewinsky led to him facing trial for impeachment even though he'd made no political howlers. If monogamy wasn't so blindly worshipped, Petraeus wouldn't be in trouble at all. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/nov/13/petraeus-infidelity-affair ive been thinking this since this whole thing came to light quite frankly, i dont give a crap about anybodys choice of who they decide to masturbate with. well, except with official supervisor/subordinate relationships because those cant be allowed due to abuse of power concerns, but otherwise with consenting adults i honestly feel its none of my or anybody elses business and doesnt reflect on their ability to do their job why are we chasing this guy out of office (he resigned but really he had to or he would be fired/disgraced out of office anyway) for a personal issue? what does this have to do with his ability to serve? adultery may be technically illegal but really why do we use this as some kind of litmus test? why does it matter so much to us (america)? if we found out that he had an open relationship agreement with his wife would that matter? what if he immediately divorced his wife and married the mistress, would that matter? listing all these questions really is more to show how silly it is that we care so much about this part of this public servants personal life that we bend over backwards to hold him ultimately accountable for something that really is a strictly personal matter. i personally dont think this is even close to something i want to use as a litmus test of professional competence. i agree with the article author, we judge these kinds of personal affairs far too harshly for no good reason and lose too many good people for very little if any positive return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Petraeus's infidelity was his own affair We've lost too many competent figures to the altar of 'family values'. Fidelity is a lifestyle choice, it is not the law Who needs family values? The breakdown of the family structure is the greatest thing to happen to this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted November 13, 2012 Author Share Posted November 13, 2012 You guys can make all the value judgments you want, but if Allen goes down too this will be truly epic, losing 2 super high ranked defense officials like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 This is a lefty cream dream. They hate the Intelligence Community and the military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 You guys can make all the value judgments you want, but if Allen goes down too this will be truly epic, losing 2 super high ranked defense officials like that Really makes you wonder, doesn't it? Right after the election? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Really makes you wonder, doesn't it? Right after the election? That would seem feasible if Obama had a history of doing things like, say, having sealed divorce papers leaked involving people he doesn't like, but that's just not his style so I really think you're reaching here. Truth is...once again, Benghazi is ignored and everyone chases the shiny thing. Very sad for those who lost their lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Petraeus's infidelity was his own affair We've lost too many competent figures to the altar of 'family values'. Fidelity is a lifestyle choice, it is not the law Actually, it is the law: If he carried on the affair while serving in the Army, however, Patraeus could face charges, according to Article 134 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, which reprimands conduct "of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces." You seem to believe that the only laws and rules that need to be followed are the rules that you personally believe in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 That would seem feasible if Obama had a history of doing things like, say, having sealed divorce papers leaked involving people he doesn't like, but that's just not his style so I really think you're reaching here. Or not releasing food stamp data prior to the election, or allowing companies to ignore the WARN Act so as to give the impression that no one is going to be laying people off, or waiting until after the election to say he's not going to push gay marriage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 It just keeps getting better and better: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/petraeus-mistress-bombarded-whistleblower-emails-article-1.1201051 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 It just keeps getting better and better: http://www.nydailyne...ticle-1.1201051 There's also a new report out today regarding a general in South Africa losing a star because of "lavish spending." Can you imagine...THIS White House is giving someone crap for lavish spending? I'm starting to think this WH is finding the Chicago way to purge it's military leaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Ooooops. All Up In My Snatch. http://weeklystandard.com/blogs/abc-affiliate-ran-phony-cover-broadwell-book_663264.html LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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