BillsGuyInMalta Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I think its very telling that the BIlls have yet to bring in Floyd for a visit, and don't appear to have him coming in at all in the upcoming weeks. I honestly think he's off the Bills draft board due to the alcohol issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I just give the guy the respect that I think he's earned over his career. But I question how diligent he is about player evaluation these days. He doesn't have to be diligent. There's probably 50-100 scouts out there who worked for Brandt. He just makes calls. Knows the questions to ask and makes a list. The entertaining thing about Brandt is hearing him call out picks (accurately) before they are made on draft day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenews Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I would take Floyd over Blackmon. One NFL scout I spoke with (with a top 4 pick) was not very high on the Oklahoma State wide receiver. He believes he will not be a #1 and does not pocess the physical skills of top NFL receiever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Brandt is way overrated and rests on his laurels from days gone by. He didn't even have Brock Osweiler in his top 100 a month ago now he is #35. Two months ago he had Vontaze Burfict his #22 ranked player, Alshon Jeffery #9 and Zac Brown #10. Jeffery and Brown are now 2nd rounders and Burfict off the list. When you have dramatic changes in the list, to me, that is a big red flag that this guy doesn't really know the players in and out. It's not too hard to look at the million or so rankings out there and formulate your own list of names. He sits and watches prospects at the combine and talks to scouts and other personnel people to come up with his updated list. To me this says more about his ability to gather together opinions rather than truly being an idependent minded scout, so to speak. That being said, I still like to read his later lists because I think it represents a general consensus of a number of fairly good talent evaluators. Brandt is overrated? Along with Tex Schramm, he turned the Cowboys into perennial winners. He's got 30 years of experience scouting for an NFL team. He's forgotten more about player evaluation than you or I will ever know. Of course players have moved up and down on his list. Back in his NFL days, Gil had a team of scouts working for him. Now he does all his work on his own. As he continues to watch tape and talk to scouts, he reevaluates players. Some move up, some move down. Tell me another draft guru who can claim on his resume that he built a Super Bowl team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikef272002 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Our pick at #10 will be Floyd / Blackmon or Kuechly. Which ever is available still. If 2 are available then I don't know which one you go for, its a tough call...But I believe it will be Floyd... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Tell me another draft guru who can claim on his resume that he built a Super Bowl team? Mike Lombardi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OklahomaBill Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I don't understand the talk of Blackmon's height. Yes he is not 6'4" but some of the best WRs of all-time have been in the 6 to 6-2 range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennesseeboy Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Reiff ia his number 10? hmmm..what number do we pick in the first round? What is our position of need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I think its very telling that the BIlls have yet to bring in Floyd for a visit, and don't appear to have him coming in at all in the upcoming weeks. I honestly think he's off the Bills draft board due to the alcohol issues. I don't think this means anything. The Bills attended the Notre Dame Pro day in force. No need to bring him in seperately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBD Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I don't understand the talk of Blackmon's height. Yes he is not 6'4" but some of the best WRs of all-time have been in the 6 to 6-2 range. He's still being ranked as a top 10 player in the coming draft. But if he and Floyd's production and skills are similar I'll take the bigger & taller player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I don't think this means anything. The Bills attended the Notre Dame Pro day in force. No need to bring him in seperately. I wouldn't be so sure, the Bills were at the Alabama and Clemson Pro Days and still brought Dareus and Spiller in for visits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Brandt is overrated? Along with Tex Schramm, he turned the Cowboys into perennial winners. He's got 30 years of experience scouting for an NFL team. He's forgotten more about player evaluation than you or I will ever know. Of course players have moved up and down on his list. Back in his NFL days, Gil had a team of scouts working for him. Now he does all his work on his own. As he continues to watch tape and talk to scouts, he reevaluates players. Some move up, some move down. Tell me another draft guru who can claim on his resume that he built a Super Bowl team? WELL SAID! I couldn't agree more... Gil Brandt and Tex Schramm were the epitome of what a FO is all about... They didn't get to be "America's Team" for nothing... And the fact that he is the ONLY Guru who has won a Super Bowl says it all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OklahomaBill Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 He's still being ranked as a top 10 player in the coming draft. But if he and Floyd's production and skills are similar I'll take the bigger & taller player. I wouldn't mind selecting Floyd. I just don't think their production is all the similar (now of course there is a ton that goes into that, like QB). If Blackmon was on the board (somehow) and we passed on him for Floyd I wouldn't be thrilled. Of course I'm just a Joe Schmo but I really don't see Blackmon as being much of a risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Apparently Brandt was at the center of a recent difference in opinions (previous to the release of this latest Top 100 list) where Brandt said that Brock Osweiler would be a first rounder and Mike Lombardi and Charlie Casserly both strongly disagreed. Anyways on this list, Brandt has Osweiler at #35, right behind Brandon Weeden and Kirk Cousins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Mike Lombardi Lombardi is a guy I respect for his NFL experience. But I'm not sure his personnel career was as successful as Brandt's. Pat Kirwan is who knows the business from the inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 1. Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford 2. Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor 3. Matt Kalil, OT, USC 4. Quinton Coples, DE, North Carolina 5. Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama 6. Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M 7. Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU 8. Melvin Ingram, OLB/DE, South Carolina 9. Luke Kuechly, LB, Boston College 10. Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa 11. Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama 12. Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame 13. Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma State 14. Michael Brockers, DT, LSU 15. David DeCastro, OG, Stanford http://www.nfl.com/d...HP11_hot_topics If he's correct, then the cupboard looks pretty full at #10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eme123 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 I say Dre Kirkpatrick at 10. CB is our biggest need. Florence & Mckelvin have shown some regression, Mcgee's injuries, & Aaron Williams is best used covering the slot. We need to strengthen this position to play dangerous teams in the spread such as New England. We are not as hard up for a starting LT as some "experts" think. Chris Hairston would be picked a lot higher in this years draft as compared to last years. He gained experience last year through 7 starts. I believe he started against the Giants, Jets(2), Dolphins, Patriots, Titans, & Broncos. If thats correct he gained some experience against some really good NFL d-lines. I say draft tackles later and the draft, build depth, and let Hairston work toward becoming the starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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