truth on hold Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 That's why I keep saying TWO of those guys. Ocho was no slouch either though. Not a HoF guy, but neither is Stevie Only 25, back to back 1,000+ yard seasons and yet you're setting limits on him? Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainwampus Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 There's never any mention of Fitzpatrick in the Stevie vs Revis discussion. Seems to me that the QBs need to be included in the "toughest to cover" discussions. Fitzy throws some nice bullets underneath and deserves credit for challenging Revis while most QBs avoid him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in KC Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Steve Johnson against the Jets Date Catches Yards TDs 11/2/08* 1 8 0 12/14/08 2 13 1 2009 Season - Johnson not active --------------------------------- 10/3/10* 3 31 1 1/2/10 5 72 0 11/6/11* 3 84 0 11/27/11 8 75 1 Recent Total 21 262 2 Recent Average 5.25 65.5 .5 * = in Buffalo ...and it turns out Revis was not active for the two Bills games in 2010. I think I forgive Revis the transgression of not singing Johnson's praises for his good game around Thanksgiving. Not to short Johnson: the first game of 2011 was also nice including a 52 yard catch over Revis and other successes. Hahahahahaha Yes, when you compare it to the really great receivers that revis limits to 1-2 catches for 10-20, Stevie looks great. Revis shuts down most receivers and it is impressive to get 5 catches when he covers you. Johnson has been doing quite well against Revis. You're right, a lot better than othre #1 WRs from the stats I remember seeing at some point. I think another game or two and Revis will start mentioning him. ("It's not that I had a bad game, it's that Steve is a very talented reciever.") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat Dude Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Id say a bit of both. It was a BS answer. He rarely ever plays AZ, Moss is out of the league, and Ochocinco is a joke. WELL said !!! WHAT A JOKE !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since 1972 Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Revis can't handle the Bills Johnson!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Um... make up you mind? Perhaps, you should read through the thread and see that I responded that I do not believe it is a slight, but that others believe it is so. The people in this thread are saying that this is a slight, that Revis is intentionally ignoring Stevie. I disagree. I believe people are making mountains out of molehills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharebear Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Couldn't we of picked revis? God where was nix years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantankerous Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 I don't get the "owned" label people are using. Four games last season with an average of 5.25 catches, 65.5 yards, and 0.5 TDs per game. With not only a pass heavy, but pretty much pass only offense the Bills used the majority of last season, the #1 receiver averaging those numbers constitutes "owned"? I agree. If he really "owned" him, he'd have made that clutch catch and maybe we would've won. SJ did better than most against Revis, but in no way did he "own" him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EldaBillsFan Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 More Fuel to stevie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Only 25, back to back 1,000+ yard seasons and yet you're setting limits on him? Wow Anything is possible but I bet you wouldn't lay money on that one. Until I start seeing some 1400 yard seasons, there's not even a conversation about it. You know since a guy like Larry fitz has 5 straight 1000 yarders, all bigger than Stevie, 3 over 1400 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Yes, when you compare it to the really great receivers that revis limits to 1-2 catches for 10-20, Stevie looks great. Revis shuts down most receivers and it is impressive to get 5 catches when he covers you. Impressive compared to other receivers I can see. But he owned Revis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Numbers don't lie. SJ put up the best against him Well, the sample isn't that big. I wouldn't call Johnson elite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Well, the sample isn't that big. I wouldn't call Johnson elite. Shut your mouth. The only measure of greatness is yards per game in 2011 vs revis. Offensive scheme, defensive scheme - none of that matters. Though Stevie even was open when he dropped that one, to add to the "owning" that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlovers Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 seriously i think he doesnt think much of stevie, who is a mid level guy, and stevie and fitz brought their A game in a game the jets were leading the whole way. I think revis knows he would own stevie in a big game and will bring it this year against him just to shut us all up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 It's not like he called him a jerk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 seriously i think he doesnt think much of stevie, who is a mid level guy, and stevie and fitz brought their A game in a game the jets were leading the whole way. I think revis knows he would own stevie in a big game and will bring it this year against him just to shut us all up. i think stevie does some things well that match up vs revis. being a good route runner and going on the inside third of the field has historically challenged revis. I would also venture though that a lot more often its truly revis island 1 on 1 coverage vs stevie than it is against a larry fitzgerald, or a moss (who i recall burning revis deep - which VERY few have been able to pull). when it comes down to it, stevie vs larry fitz is a laughable argument, stevie vs moss is silly as well. Stevie could play his way into the realm of ocho cinco (and isnt far off at this point) - not being listed ahead of those three isnt an insult though if asked to rattle off a few names... like many have mentioned (or maybe i have many times), if he puts stevie even in his top 10 hardest to cover guys, thats a pretty good compliment considering how many guys hes lined up against. its not like he just said - oh stevie johnson, that guys a bum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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