Jim in Anchorage Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 "There?" I can also do other things with my foot. Tard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I can also do other things with my foot. Tard. No doubt. Just make sure you wash it after removing it from your mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 No doubt. Just make sure you wash it after removing it from your mouth. Lame "Doc". Why do they call you "Doc" anyway? Always asking people to get undressed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Lame "Doc". Why do they call you "Doc" anyway? Always asking people to get undressed? Don't need to ask. They already are by the time I start talking to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Don't need to ask. They already are by the time I start talking to them. Strip searching prisoners is not something I aspire to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_In_Norfolk Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Currently reading The storm of war by Andrew Roberts. Yes I know you could have done it better. Us hicks just don't know real much about fancy talk. Sounds like an interesting book. Here is a review by someone that can be taken seriously: Roberts’s descriptions of soldiers and officers are masterly and humane, and his battlefield set pieces are as gripping as any I have ever read. He has visited many of the battlefields, and has an unusually good eye for detail as well as a painterly skill at physical description. (His nearly perfect sense of terrain and geography is marred only by his regrettable conflation of Russia with the Soviet Union, which leads to confusion about battlefield locations, German war aims and Soviet casualties.) He is just as much at home at sea as on land; from Midway to El Alamein his prose is unerringly precise and stirringly vivid. It is hard to imagine a better-told military history of World War II. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/19/books/review/book-review-the-storm-of-war-a-new-history-of-the-second-world-war-by-andrew-roberts.html?pagewanted=all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Strip searching prisoners is not something I aspire to. You sure about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 My link So if we can’t address the demand issue, why not go after supply? A great place to start would be giving every student who goes into university, or post-secondary education, a mandatory reality check. Instead of Frosh Week, we can call it Future Debt-Ridden Unemployment Week.Mandatory classes, say in the final year of high school, about student debt, the costs of an education and how long it takes to pay off those debts, given reasonable compensation in their preferred field, would be a great place to start. This would let students make informed decisions about the value of an education — not the fluffy emotional value of making new friends and discovering the joys of binge drinking, but the literal value — how much financial return they can reasonably expect to make on their investment of tens of thousands of dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 My link Y'know, as I was reading that article, I was reminded of one of the president's post-SOTU campaign speeches. He was telling everyone there are millions of jobs available in America right now. The problem is, we don't have the qualified people needed to fill those jobs. He was urging community colleges to help these students get the education they need as quickly as possible so these jobs can be filled. He mentions something along the lines of "these are engineering jobs," but then acknowledges that "there are different kinds of engineers," so what we have are millions of engineering jobs available, and even though we don't know specifically what type of engineering jobs they are, there are not enough unspecified engineers to fills the undefined engineering jobs. So my advice to those students is to go to their community college and learn to be an engineer. We're not too sure what kind, but that doesn't matter right now. Just take an engineering class. Quick. Cuz there are millions of jobs waiting for you RIGHT NOW!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Y'know, as I was reading that article, I was reminded of one of the president's post-SOTU campaign speeches. He was telling everyone there are millions of jobs available in America right now. The problem is, we don't have the qualified people needed to fill those jobs. He was urging community colleges to help these students get the education they need as quickly as possible so these jobs can be filled. He mentions something along the lines of "these are engineering jobs," but then acknowledges that "there are different kinds of engineers," so what we have are millions of engineering jobs available, and even though we don't know specifically what type of engineering jobs they are, there are not enough unspecified engineers to fills the undefined engineering jobs. So my advice to those students is to go to their community college and learn to be an engineer. We're not too sure what kind, but that doesn't matter right now. Just take an engineering class. Quick. Cuz there are millions of jobs waiting for you RIGHT NOW!!! There won't be many chicks in those classes that only have one chin but damn it, you'll be worth something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 How can 'banks' be at the top of your list when it's clearly and obviously 'government' and the woman that are the problem? There is no risk when it's guaranteed by the gov't -- the banks are simply doing *exactly* what the gov't is trying to get them to do! Yet you place the blame with the banks first and foremost! I just don't get it. I mean, let's play this out: Do you think this woman would have gotten +$400K if the loans WEREN'T guaranteed by the gov't? Is it really your position that the banks just don't 'understand' the risks here? No where in my statement did I say anyone was at the top of a list. The point was that it's a combination of factors. She's an idiot for taking that much debt; banks are reckless, but they don't care because there's a government guarantee, and the government guarantee of a private loan by a bank is bad policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 23, 2012 Author Share Posted February 23, 2012 No where in my statement did I say anyone was at the top of a list. The point was that it's a combination of factors. She's an idiot for taking that much debt; banks are reckless, but they don't care because there's a government guarantee, and the government guarantee of a private loan by a bank is bad policy. You're words: So if there's a crisis, it's obviously her fault. Let's ignore the fact that banks continued lending her money even though that level of debt has an unrealistic chance of payback; but, hey, it's guaranteed by the government, so who cares about risk... Doesn't sound like you calling her an idiot. All that was missing was after your first sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Y'know, as I was reading that article, I was reminded of one of the president's post-SOTU campaign speeches. He was telling everyone there are millions of jobs available in America right now. The problem is, we don't have the qualified people needed to fill those jobs. He was urging community colleges to help these students get the education they need as quickly as possible so these jobs can be filled. He mentions something along the lines of "these are engineering jobs," but then acknowledges that "there are different kinds of engineers," so what we have are millions of engineering jobs available, and even though we don't know specifically what type of engineering jobs they are, there are not enough unspecified engineers to fills the undefined engineering jobs. So my advice to those students is to go to their community college and learn to be an engineer. We're not too sure what kind, but that doesn't matter right now. Just take an engineering class. Quick. Cuz there are millions of jobs waiting for you RIGHT NOW!!! Community organizer is a hot field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 So if there's a crisis, it's obviously her fault. Let's ignore the fact that banks continued lending her money even though that level of debt has an unrealistic chance of payback; but, hey, it's guaranteed by the government, so who cares about risk... So the government making a bad rule and the private sector capitalizing on it is the private sector's fault? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 No where in my statement did I say anyone was at the top of a list. The point was that it's a combination of factors. She's an idiot for taking that much debt; banks are reckless, but they don't care because there's a government guarantee, and the government guarantee of a private loan by a bank is bad policy. Right...except in your post you only demonize the banks and didn't mention that any fault resided with the woman or the government (where 95% of the fault lies). Typical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 You sure about that? Females be alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 You're words: Doesn't sound like you calling her an idiot. All that was missing was after your first sentence. The OP mentions the "next financial crisis." Everyone was focusing on blaming the borrower and nothing else. I was trying to point out that there's more than one guilty party to blame for this, if or when the debt bubble bursts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 23, 2012 Author Share Posted February 23, 2012 The OP mentions the "next financial crisis." Everyone was focusing on blaming the borrower and nothing else. I was trying to point out that there's more than one guilty party to blame for this, if or when the debt bubble bursts. You are so full of ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjamie12 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 The OP mentions the "next financial crisis." Everyone was focusing on blaming the borrower and nothing else. I was trying to point out that there's more than one guilty party to blame for this, if or when the debt bubble bursts. Oh for God's sake, man! So when you mentioned the banks specifically, we were just supposed to know that you meant that "Yes, the woman made horrific decisions, and yes, government policy in this area is just completely and totally counter-productive to the problem of spiraling education costs, but the banks share some teeny-tiny percentage of the blame here for participating in this woman's idiocy that is enabled by stupid governmental policy." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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