DrDawkinstein Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 (edited) Ugh, I have to say Im not real happy about that. However, I do agree with the sentiment that our "Base D" isnt very important as most teams use multiple fronts each game. But still... Cmon Bills... edit: The only positive I see in this is we have more reason to go after Mario Williams. Which I still doubt will happen. Edited January 30, 2012 by DrDareustein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAST MODE BABY! Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I like Buddy and Chan. That being said, was this all part of Buddy's master plan? I guess Wanny necessitated this change, but why didn't they go after a proven 3-4 guy two years ago? At least we have players with 4-3 experience. Carrington is an 4-3 DE in college and Troup was a DT. Crossing fingers Wanny makes all of this belly aching a moot point with an improved defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I like Buddy and Chan. That being said, was this all part of Buddy's master plan? I guess Wanny necessitated this change, but why didn't they go after a proven 3-4 guy two years ago? At least we have players with 4-3 experience. Carrington is an 4-3 DE in college and Troup was a DT. Crossing fingers Wanny makes all of this belly aching a moot point with an improved defense. Most likely reasons: 1.) Couldn't afford one - whether because his salary wasn't in the budget, or because Gailey's a low-paid head coach and you can't higher a DC at about the same salary. 2.) Did go after one (or more), but were turned down, because he/they didn't like the situation, didn't want to work for Gailey, didn't want to move, or whatever. 3.) No proven 3-4 guys were available at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris in Syracuse Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Ugh, I have to say Im not real happy about that. However, I do agree with the sentiment that our "Base D" isnt very important as most teams use multiple fronts each game. But still... Cmon Bills... edit: The only positive I see in this is we have more reason to go after Mario Williams. Which I still doubt will happen. I am very unhappy. I can't believe that Chan just wasted two years and many picks on a defense he underestimated. That is where Buddy had to step in and say transitioning from tampa 2 to a 34 is impossible and by the way we don't have a DC that knows how to run it. It is like the blind leading the blind at one bills drive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I am very unhappy. I can't believe that Chan just wasted two years and many picks on a defense he underestimated. That is where Buddy had to step in and say transitioning from tampa 2 to a 34 is impossible and by the way we don't have a DC that knows how to run it. It is like the blind leading the blind at one bills drive! They didn't waste picks. Most of their picks on D can play in either defense. And they played a lot of 43 last year anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I am very unhappy. I can't believe that Chan just wasted two years and many picks on a defense he underestimated. That is where Buddy had to step in and say transitioning from tampa 2 to a 34 is impossible and by the way we don't have a DC that knows how to run it. It is like the blind leading the blind at one bills drive! Please name the wasted picks. Who did we draft/sign who is simply not built for a 4-3 base? Yes, I'm challenging your reaction, but I'm also genuinely curious. So please enlighten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Please name the wasted picks. Who did we draft/sign who is simply not built for a 4-3 base? Yes, I'm challenging your reaction, but I'm also genuinely curious. So please enlighten. I think he's saying the opposite, that we didn't draft enough guys built for a base 3-4 the last 2 years. I kind of wonder if Buddy Nix simply has much more expertise drafting 4-3 players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Now that we'll be operating primarily out of a 4-3 I wouldn't be surprised to see us select Zach Brown #10. He'd be my first choice as far as OLBs are concerned now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Please name the wasted picks. Who did we draft/sign who is simply not built for a 4-3 base? Yes, I'm challenging your reaction, but I'm also genuinely curious. So please enlighten. The only guy who might be boned is Troup, and I think even he played in a 4-3 at UCF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 The only guy who might be boned is Troup, and I think even he played in a 4-3 at UCF. Moats, Batten, and Chris White? Where do these guys fit in now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I am very unhappy. I can't believe that Chan just wasted two years and many picks on a defense he underestimated. That is where Buddy had to step in and say transitioning from tampa 2 to a 34 is impossible and by the way we don't have a DC that knows how to run it. It is like the blind leading the blind at one bills drive! I dont think we wasted any picks (outside of Troup). But I do agree we wasted a lot of time teaching the rookies one thing, just to switch it on them. I also stand behind Buddy that we needed to get out of the Tampa-2 as quickly as possible. Mike Nolan is who I wanted the Bills to bring in to run our 34, and he will be in Atlanta this year running their 43. Any way we can pull off a coaches trade? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 linky This is to a Buffalo rumblings article. Does anyone have a link to the whole press conference. I can only find bits and pieces on bb.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle flap Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Moats, Batten, and Chris White? Where do these guys fit in now? same place as before: the bench. but seriously, moats and batten can spell as situational pass rushers in odd man nickel fronts and dollar packages. not every draft pick is going to be a starter, much less a pro bowler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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