Billsrhody Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 (edited) I'm not trying to start another Evans thread.. just curious to get some numbers. Edited August 12, 2011 by Billsrhody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWings Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 I voted yes with a caveat - wish they could have gotten a better pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 I'm not trying to start another Evans thread.. just curious to get some numbers. Â I am not a fan of buddy Nix. I like Buddy but he has not yet proven to me that he is a very good NFL General Manager. Lee was not going to get the Bills to the playoffs. Lee needed to go to a contender the Bills are not a contender and they will not be a contender for the balance of Lee Evans career. Also the Bills were not going to do better than a 4th for Evans. Â The better question to ask is: What will they now do with the extra cap room? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_red Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 4th round pick for a 30 year old WR who can only run go routes, has lost some speed & has put up crap #bers the last 2 years. Yea I'll take that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills1960 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 You should expand the poll with the option of yes, but the compensation was awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsrhody Posted August 12, 2011 Author Share Posted August 12, 2011 You should expand the poll with the option of yes, but the compensation was awful. Â That work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 (edited) The problem isn't that they traded Evans. It's HOW they did it. They traded him at a point in time where they had absolutely no leverage. Just like they did with Lynch. They sold low. This front office is beyond inept. The Spiller pick, the failure to move Lynch during the draft. The decision to move Lee now ... It all adds up to the same thing: Nix and company are out of their element. Â Â ...or, they had nothing to do with it and it's all on Ralph. Either way moves like this is why the Bills have been one of the worst run teams in professional sports for over a decade. Edited August 12, 2011 by tgreg99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meark Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 I would have preferred a 3rd round pick.. but I am excited to see what some of these young guys can do.. Â For the people that say that Stevie only had a good year because of Lee, well maybe Nelson or Easley have break out years since Stevie gets doubled.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsguy Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 I voted yes with a caveat - wish they could have gotten a better pick. Â I agree they should have gotten a better return. However, wait until the Ravens find out Evans won't run any patterns unless they are within 5 yards of the sideline. I think that factored into the Bills trade. The young WR's are willing to run the tough routes over the middle and Evans wasn't willing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 The problem isn't that they traded Evans. It's HOW they did it. They traded him at a point in time where they had absolutely no leverage. Just like they did with Lynch. They sold low. This front office is beyond inept. The Spiller pick, the failure to move Lynch during the draft. The decision to move Lee now ... It all adds up to the same thing: Nix and company are out of their element. Â Â ...or, they had nothing to do with it and it's all on Ralph. Either way moves like this is why the Bills have been one of the worst run teams in professional sports for over a decade. Â When would you have preferred they trade him? No one is going to trade before the draft, or before Free Agency. The only reason multiple teams were interested, allowing us to get a 4th for him, was because they failed to address a need during the draft and FA. Â Also, with no CBA, we COULDNT trade him any earlier. Â Â But feel free to make up scenarios in your head to hold the Bills to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 When would you have preferred they trade him? No one is going to trade before the draft, or before Free Agency. The only reason multiple teams were interested, allowing us to get a 4th for him, was because they failed to address a need during the draft and FA. Â Also, with no CBA, we COULDNT trade him any earlier. Â Â But feel free to make up scenarios in your head to hold the Bills to Since there's no reason to dump him for salary cap, since there's no reason to dump him to help the offense, then you hold on to him until a contender loses a key WR to injury or you wait until the draft and move him for a higher pick. Â It's not rocket surgery. Trading him now makes zero sense. You can get more from him later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spun Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 It would have been nice to get more but was that even possible? I don't know. But if what I am hearing true, that Evans wanted out then good night now Lee Evans. Bitter and disgruntled is not what the team needs. A roster of (very skilled) professionals that want to play fot the Buffalo Bills is what the team needs. Evans was not that productive the last two seasons. I expected more of Evans when T.O. was on the field. Fix that offensive line and then let's see what the rest of the offense can do (Fitz, Spiller, etc.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 (edited) Since there's no reason to dump him for salary cap, since there's no reason to dump him to help the offense, then you hold on to him until a contender loses a key WR to injury or you wait until the draft and move him for a higher pick. Â It's not rocket surgery. Trading him now makes zero sense. You can get more from him later. Â Maybe. Or maybe no one is in the market after this. Bird in hand... Edited August 12, 2011 by DrDareustein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Bird in hand... ... that perspective is why the Ravens just absolutely robbed the Bills and made Nix look like a fool. Again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Since there's no reason to dump him for salary cap, since there's no reason to dump him to help the offense, then you hold on to him until a contender loses a key WR to injury or you wait until the draft and move him for a higher pick. Â It's not rocket surgery. Trading him now makes zero sense. You can get more from him later. Â I think this was a key time... Baltimore missed out on some receivers in FA and they didn't get Derrick Mason back or Jerricho Cotchery. So they were gonna have to give up picks. Honestly I think they over payed for Evans. Randy Moss got the Patriots* a 3rd and a 7th. Boldin got the Cardinals a 3rd, 4th. Both those receivers have put up better numbers than Evans. Gotta take what the market dictates. 37 receptions for 578 yards, isn't going to get you much. Yea he has a reputation as being a number 1, but the numbers just don't support that. At least for the last 2 years.... 81 receptions for 1,190 yards. Ouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 The problem isn't that they traded Evans. It's HOW they did it. They traded him at a point in time where they had absolutely no leverage. Just like they did with Lynch. They sold low. This front office is beyond inept. The Spiller pick, the failure to move Lynch during the draft. The decision to move Lee now ... It all adds up to the same thing: Nix and company are out of their element. Â Â ...or, they had nothing to do with it and it's all on Ralph. Either way moves like this is why the Bills have been one of the worst run teams in professional sports for over a decade. Â So when was the best time to move Lee? I'm curious because you are on such a tear. After we cut and lose one of our young WRs? Â Â PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills1960 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 That work? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 We got great compensation when you look at it this way. AQ went for a 2 after being on the block for 3 years. Holmes (who honestly is much better than Evans) went for a 5, but had a 4 game suspension (big whoop). Randy Moss drew a 3rd and NE had to give up a 7th with Moss to get a 3. Since when is Evans in the same hemisphere as Moss? Â We got horrible compensation when you think about how bad we draft. Â I really dont care. Evans neever really did anything for me. We are going to suck this year, and Evans would have gotten us what, maybe one more win? O great 6 wins instead of 5! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 I am new to the my focused fandom and am still learning. But i am still baffled by the timing of this. Just paid him the bonus didnt they? a parting gift? absolutely blow my mind. Some of you folks were at practice. Could Lee play football, was there something telling in his play? did he not want to run across the middle or hooks, whatever? I think we should have waited and let him go next season if he did not perform much better. There has got to be more to this because the explanation seems is that Nix wanted to fill the roster with young guys and Lee was cool with that. Lets hope we make the best of it and Lee has some good years in front of him and leave the coverage behind him. I will admit , by all reports we might do well with what we have. Stevie's role sure just changed. No pressure though Kid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 (edited) The timing was bad. Period. We should have traded him way sooner or just gambled and tried to move him later in the season for a 3rd or a 4th from a bad team. The Ravens will likely pick high again...we got NOTHING for this. Certainly not the way we draft. Risk moving a late 4th to a late 5th or something in order to potentially get a late 3rd...the way we draft...would have been the way to go. Worst case we just still have Lee to use as we desire. We weren't desperate. The only thing it does is let us resign some guys after the first few weeks if they play good...big deal (we are under cap anyway) we could have held out and just played hard ball and guess what if the deal fell through then so be it! That said this wasn't the complete disaster some would have you think...Lee isn't worth that much...but we could have extracted more or at least just played this out better IMO. Maybe not now...like I said we should have foreseen this long ago (that's why they make money..to plan...) or maybe held on till later in the season when teams are hurt and/or need a push. Edited August 12, 2011 by dayman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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