Wing Man Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 True, but his teams were usually pretty good even without one. Fitz is probably better than any QB that he ever had. Just goes to show how many deficiencies a good defense can hide. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Billick built a great d, so it is no surprise he advocates the same. He won the superbowl with trent Dilfer. I am also in the camp of avoiding a qb till rd 3 or4. My reason is the offense showed some promise as is. The d was abysmal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meark Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 I like how he said Chris Kelsay has value. Only second-rounder Chris Kelsay and fifth rounder Kyle Williams have proven to be of any real value. His whole article lost credibility with that line.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realist Posted April 5, 2011 Author Share Posted April 5, 2011 Only second-rounder Chris Kelsay and fifth rounder Kyle Williams have proven to be of any real value. His whole article lost credibility with that line.. Although you and I might agree, you can't say that's really true since the Bills re-signed him to a healthy contract. Obviously they see something in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Direhard Fan Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 I'm with you. Jumping for joy and feeling mary. Draft "D" all the way and pick up an OL guy too and let Fitz do his thing. PLEASE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Flowers Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 for the last time....NONE OF THOSE DL ARE GOING TO DOMINATE.... Also, our defnse was in transition for most of the years....switching between a 3-4 and 4-3 ...because of injuries and replacing talent... We have alot of solid pieces that need to be put in the right system it takes time.... 3 pick... doesnt need to be a defensive player in a deep defensive draft... we have an early 2nd, a solid 3rd and two in the 4th.... Promise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammie65 Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 I'm not sure (as I'm not a scout or privy to game tape to even anaylze them) whether Cam or Gabbert are top five talents at QB but I do believe that I was wrong earlier on to assume that going D first pick is the "only" way. Yes I would prefer a defensive player (DE\DT\CB\OLB) be our pick at #3 but I'm now of the opinion that any player picked in this draft from the top players at each position will make the Bills a better team. I also believe however that certain D players will have an earlier impact on the team as opposed to a QB who may sit for awhile (unless Fitzy gets hurt early or for some reason just stinks it up) and that most of them will be (hopefully) long term high impact players. Some will ultimately be busts as well, but that's the nature of the beast (as we know too well). I just hope who ever the pick is that the player is a true high level NFL player that we can keep in Buffalo (along with the rest of our picks!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 I'd be more interested in Ozzie Newsome's assessment. I second that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Billick was canned because he couldn't find a QB. Exactly, so when he tells you to stay away from a QB, you listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 No offensive player really worth taking in this years draft at number 3 in my opinion. There isn't a great QB avaiable. Gabbert is a nice prospect but not a franchise guy, while Newton screams Vince Young 2.0 in my opinion a freak physical athlete without the proper throwing motion and field vision to be a franchise QB. The rest of the offensive talent isn't impressive either. There isn't a LT really worth taking (Bell also showed serious progress this season) and AJ Green and the rest of the skill position players aren't really much of a need. Von Miller or Dareus should be our pick. Miller would be our pass rusher while Dareus would help the run D. Both are difference makers in the front 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Billick says it would be a mistake to go QB at no. 3 with the defensive talent in this year's draft. I couldn't agree more. Billick's analysis Never liked Billick as a coach and don't like him as an evaluater. We need a franchise QB we can always get D Talent latter with all the defensive talent in this draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Save this link. (BTW, I didn't know Aaron Maybin had got cut.) Yes, and McCargo too (who changed his name to Jon). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EldaBillsFan Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 im not saying they wont be solid...or even Good....im just saying none of these guy strike me as dominating players....i dont see the Suh,or Sapp in any of these guys...and if im wrong it wouldnt be the first time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDaDdy Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 (edited) Only second-rounder Chris Kelsay and fifth rounder Kyle Williams have proven to be of any real value. His whole article lost credibility with that line.. I am no fan of Chris Kelsay but K Williams is a probowler. As far as run defense goes, these guys might have been the only ones on the field. Never liked Billick as a coach and don't like him as an evaluater. We need a franchise QB we can always get D Talent latter with all the defensive talent in this draft. The flip side of this is why waste such good talent and depth at the top? With all the defensive talent in this draft a guy we draft in the 1st is going to be better than a guy we could draft in the 1st in other years where there is not so much talent. Take advantage of this drafts strength early don't squander it by assuming we can get talent late. A franchise QB is great and fans love a single player they can hold on to and have hope for the future. I am not stating this as fact but in the context of super bowl victories how many of these "franchise" QBs have won a super bowl without a top 10 defense? Most if not all I would say had a top 10 ranked defense during the regular season or at least had a defense that played like one during the play offs when it counted. I have seen great defenses and journeymen QBs win the superbowl but I don't recall an elite franchise QB win without great to elite defensive play. I would be interested to know if there is an exception to this "rule". Edited April 6, 2011 by PDaDdy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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