NoSaint Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 He seems to be the least talked about - anyone see a lot of him? I haven't but worry that he has high bust potential- just a worry. Just odd that we have dareus, fairley, Peterson, green, miller threads regularly and bowers has gone undiscussed comparatively Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 It just seems a little fishy he went from 3 sacks to 16 sacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 4, 2011 Author Share Posted February 4, 2011 It just seems a little fishy he went from 3 sacks to 16 sacks It rubs me funny too. Did playing time go up? Get bigger? Faster? New moves? Stop taking plays off? Easier schedule? I truly saw only some this year and nearly nothing last year. Can anyone help account for the jump? Just odd he went from 3 sacks to a guy that few think will fall to a third pick in just one year. Add to that the lack of talk about him not just here but in general, even though he is top 2-3 everywhere... Just odd. I'd like to get more familiar. I've heard he's pretty much a 43 end, but some say he could play in the 34- realistic opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talley56 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 It just seems a little fishy he went from 3 sacks to 16 sacks Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't he hurt his first season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 He seems to be the least talked about - anyone see a lot of him? I haven't but worry that he has high bust potential- just a worry. Just odd that we have dareus, fairley, Peterson, green, miller threads regularly and bowers has gone undiscussed comparatively Bowers is overrated, was not impressed with him at all, slow off the snap, stands strait up, tight hips, takes plays off, not a high motor guy. It rubs me funny too. Did playing time go up? Get bigger? Faster? New moves? Stop taking plays off? Easier schedule? I truly saw only some this year and nearly nothing last year. Can anyone help account for the jump? Just odd he went from 3 sacks to a guy that few think will fall to a third pick in just one year. Add to that the lack of talk about him not just here but in general, even though he is top 2-3 everywhere... Just odd. I'd like to get more familiar. I've heard he's pretty much a 43 end, but some say he could play in the 34- realistic opinions? No in the world he can play 34 OLB, Too slow too tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 He seems to be the least talked about - anyone see a lot of him? I haven't but worry that he has high bust potential- just a worry. Just odd that we have dareus, fairley, Peterson, green, miller threads regularly and bowers has gone undiscussed comparatively I've seen a reasonable amoutn of him down here in ACC country, and i'm impressed by what i saw. (I'm of the mind we can't go wrong with fairley/dareus/bowers/miller at #3) The guy's got the continuous hustle to go after plays, and often times blows things up in the backfield. I can't answer why the sack totals jump, but this year at Clemson, he recorded a sack in 11 of their 13 games. So its not like he piled up all his sacks against garbage opponents. One thing to consider is that these guys are young, and there are times that guys don't blossom until later on in their collegiate career when "the light goes on." Rarely do players dominate for all 3 years at the collegiate level. Even fairley didn't do much in 2009. Bowers is also listed at 280, so if he's anywhere around that, it's big enough to play 3-4 end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreReed83 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 It just seems a little fishy he went from 3 sacks to 16 sacks Kinda funny that Nick Fairley went up from 1.5 to 11.5 sacks. Fishy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Rob Johnson Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 It rubs me funny too. Did playing time go up? Get bigger? Faster? New moves? Stop taking plays off? Easier schedule? I truly saw only some this year and nearly nothing last year. Can anyone help account for the jump? Just odd he went from 3 sacks to a guy that few think will fall to a third pick in just one year. I actually read that he got smaller, lost like 20 lbs and recommited to football after the death of his father. But also makes you wonder where the commitment was from the #1 HS recruit the first two years of his college career. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1619548 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 (edited) Bowers is overrated, was not impressed with him at all, slow off the snap, stands strait up, tight hips, takes plays off, not a high motor guy. No in the world he can play 34 OLB, Too slow too tight. I would counter your report by saying he's extremely explosive off the line, multiple rush moves, and is very consistent (not putting up huge numbers in a couple of games to inflate his numbers.) Edited February 4, 2011 by stony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EldaBillsFan Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Mario Williams.....but probably not as good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 We need a DE more than any other position & I think Bowers would make an immediate impact for Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 4, 2011 Author Share Posted February 4, 2011 Kinda funny that Nick Fairley went up from 1.5 to 11.5 sacks. Fishy Weird how people question that about him too.... It doesn't worry you at all? I think it's especially hard for a young DT to dominate at 18-19 as he's still got to get a lot stronger. On the outside you can lean on speed a little bit more. Just seems worth noting. This is a pretty massive jump in one year. If it was a matter of getting back to 100% physically and mental as some have suggested - it would make sense. Following that thread, has he been at a high level all year? Take any plays off? I love that his sacks weren't bunched against schools with 2 directions and a state in their name. As much as it means something to beat the lower talent at northwestern Alabama state college, I want to see him beat guys on top 25 teams also. He doesn't have to win every day, but it sounds like he did most last year. Consistent pressure too? Regardless of blocking scheme? Or was he often just taking advantage of flubs when the OT screwed it and he was only chipped by a TE/RB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Weird how people question that about him too.... It doesn't worry you at all? I think it's especially hard for a young DT to dominate at 18-19 as he's still got to get a lot stronger. On the outside you can lean on speed a little bit more. Just seems worth noting. This is a pretty massive jump in one year. If it was a matter of getting back to 100% physically and mental as some have suggested - it would make sense. Following that thread, has he been at a high level all year? Take any plays off? I love that his sacks weren't bunched against schools with 2 directions and a state in their name. As much as it means something to beat the lower talent at northwestern Alabama state college, I want to see him beat guys on top 25 teams also. He doesn't have to win every day, but it sounds like he did most last year. Consistent pressure too? Regardless of blocking scheme? Or was he often just taking advantage of flubs when the OT screwed it and he was only chipped by a TE/RB? Bowers terrorized us (FSU) this season in a close 16-13 loss. He was all over the field. The only reason we won that game is because Clemson's offense had the ball in the red zone 5 times and came away with 3 points. That and we kicked a 55 yd FG as time expired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Something tells me we are going to get a really good defensive player this year with that first pick.....regardless of who it is Fairly Darius Quinn Bowers I wouldn't cry over any of these picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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