CodeMonkey Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 (edited) Me too. So when you dismiss Chan Gailey's record in Dallas, I'm calling you on it. Dallas before Gailey was HC: 6-10 Dallas when Gailey was HC: 10-6; 8-8 Dallas for the three years after he was fired: 5-11, 5-11, 5-11 So much for the "team with talent" that he didn't have a big part of leading to victory. This was not the SB-winning Cowboys - they were old and or retired. He was winning with the remnants. As for the Bills having the same personnel - if they avoid a league-high 20 players on IR - including 3 of 5 O-linemen, your first statement will also be false. I'm pretty sure we have a new starting RB this year too. I'm not sure I "dismissed" Gaileys record. I did say he was over .500. I said he had some talent on the Cowgirls team and he did. He had Aikman and Emmit Smith both years I believe (albeit at the end of their careers). And as you said his combined record as a head coach for the 2 seasons was 18-14 (or 18-16 if you include 0-2 in playoff games). Like I said, a "winning" record but hardly one that would inspire superbowl dreams. Also that head coaching experience was quite some time ago. The Bills do have largely the same personnel as last season, so my statement is not false. If they stay healthy or not this season remains to be seen, but the roster is not substantially different than last years. You seem to think Gailey is a great coach and will do great things with the Bills. Maybe he will, I certainly hope he can. But apparently unlike you, I do not expect a turnaround this season. I think Gailey/Nix will need at least 3 seasons to right the ship, if they can. Edited September 7, 2010 by CodeMonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekJ Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 (edited) 1) The Bills largely have the same personnel on both sides of the ball this season. 2) This is very possible. 3) You say this with Spiller having exactly zero live carries in a NFL game that counts? Scoring machine, really? He certainly looks exciting to watch and could prove to be very good if he can manage to stay healthy (he is very small). We should probably wait until he has at least one real game under his belt before we declare him the next OJ don't you think? 4) Proven winner? He hasn't been a head coach in the NFL for a very long time. And when he was, he did have a winning record (with a team with talent) but not hall of fame material. Excellent playcaller? That is a matter of opinion, and you could be right. We will start to see shortly. I don't mind people "billieving" at all, more power to you. It's revising history to make billieving easier I have trouble with. {with uplifted eyes} For all that is holy, PLEASE let the season start already! This stuff is getting tired. Edited September 7, 2010 by DerekJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 {with uplifted eyes} For all that is holy, PLEASE let the season start already! This stuff is getting tired. I agree, but I would direct that at the post I was responding to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekJ Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 I agree, but I would direct that at the post I was responding to. Actually, I'll leave it where it is, thank you. My comment is applicable to everyone (including me). I'm just ready for some football....let's get it underway. All this speculation is worthless, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In-A-Gadda-Levitre Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 It's the same article that is on The Sports Xchange, as well as on CBSsports.com -- I assume, but not sure, they farm out a local guy to write those articles for each team but I'm not sure. Trying to find out. I was gonna post the same thing. Doesn't Allen Wilson write those articles for the Sports Xchange? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meark Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 There's no way the Jets will finish with 6 wins. The addition of Cromartie, Jason Taylor to the best defense in the NFL makes them only go up. I say Jets:11-5 Pats:11-5 Dolphins:8-8 Bills:5-11 Loss of Revis.. Revis > Cromartie Just sayin.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 I'm just ready for some football....let's get it underway. All this speculation is worthless, really. Now that is something I think everyone can get behind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 I agree, but I would direct that at the post I was responding to. Really, for giving my prediction on a sports forum and some of the reasons why, Disagreeing with me is one thing, but If my posts are tiresome why bother responding, Perhaps I feel the same about all the negativity, but I also realize everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 How about this is the first "national" article I've seen that actually has stats from the preseason, not to mention had the 2009 records right on display. This preseason Bills 1's beat the 1's of the Colts, Bengals, and Lions, and Trent put up a 97.1 QB rating. (They were missing 3 of 5 OLinemen for the Skin's). This guy actually knew some of that before he started typing. Preseason final scores mean little - but the play of the 1's vs. the 1's IS VERY INDICATIVE of the season to come. The fact that the great mass of national media nitwits hasn't watched any of it just reinforces the my notion that sports writers get paid for damned little real work. why thanks. always glad to be included among the masses. and the pay is good, too. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 I think the Bills are an enigma this season. So many new variables. If fans, who follow this team down to the most finite of details have predictions all over the board and such a wide variety of opinion on how good the team is, national sports media are truly out in the dark and simply guessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Point of View Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Nice find, thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Really, for giving my prediction on a sports forum and some of the reasons why, Hmmm. Good point, I stand corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Hmmm. Good point, I stand corrected. I know you didn't mean anything by it, and thanks for saying, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTS Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 A lot of posters and Bills fans in general need to realize that everyone will dog this team until they do something. Every single media expert that said we are going to suck this year has at least once in the past decade said that any given year was going to be Buffalo's breakout year. They aren't going to be fooled again. The only thing that will get this team good press is winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBows Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 I'm predicting less than 20 players on IR this year...that should account for one additional win. Otherwise, I'm just hoping that Chan will show us the baby, and then agree to never again say he'll show us the baby... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Every single media expert that said we are going to suck this year has at least once in the past decade said that any given year was going to be Buffalo's breakout year. They aren't going to be fooled again. that's an astute point, which i had never thought of. but there's wisdom to it. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 There's no way the Jets will finish with 6 wins. The addition of Cromartie, Jason Taylor to the best defense in the NFL makes them only go up. I say Jets:11-5 Pats:11-5 Dolphins:8-8 Bills:5-11 Cromartie might be a slight improvement, but bringing in a senior citizen like Jasonn Taylor only adds marginal value. It looks like more of a depth move. The D will still be solid, but unless Dirty Mark improves drastically in his sophomore year, I think their team overall is equal to or possibly worse than the 8-8 powerhouse they fielded last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 I was gonna post the same thing. Doesn't Allen Wilson write those articles for the Sports Xchange? According to a little birdie, Leo Roth used to write them, and perhaps he still does. It probably is a local guy. Wilson does it for The Sporting News, and it's also possible that is where CBS or USA Today gets it from. Either way, that article in all likelihood was written by a local sportswriter as opposed to a national guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C l u t c H 385 Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 8 wins I'd say is an absolute max with the Bills getting more than their fair share of fortunate bounces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 According to a little birdie, Leo Roth used to write them, and perhaps he still does. It probably is a local guy. Wilson does it for The Sporting News, and it's also possible that is where CBS or USA Today gets it from. Either way, that article in all likelihood was written by a local sportswriter as opposed to a national guy. Hmm I wonder which company owns USA Today and which local newspapers it also owns ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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