CountDorkula Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20...sp&c_id=mlb Chipper Jones is set to retire after 17 years in the league. Truly a sad day for any Braves fan. At least we get to finish out the season with him. One of the greatest if not the greatest switch hitter of all time. Edit: I should have said his generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 He could make me feel better about his career if he helps the Braves take 2 from Tampa in the current series. Odd how his only WS title came in his rookie season.. Fine career, class guy. Now BEAT the Rays! Go Yankees! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 One of the greatest if not the greatest switch hitter of all time. Mickey Mantle called, just to say hello. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlegm Alley Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Mickey Mantle called, just to say hello. I was going to say the same exact thing. I would also venture to say that Eddie Murray is 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Quick list. Would'ya think? Mickey Mantle Frankie Frisch Chipper Jones Eddie Murray Carlos Beltran Howard Johnson Ken Caminiti George Posada Reggie Smith Bernie Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooderson Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Sad, sad day. I've always been a fan of Chipper. It's hard not to like the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 The Argument Mantle V Jones Mantle - 18 Seasons Games - 2401 Runs -1677 Hits - 2415 HR - 536 RBI - 1509 SB - 153 Avg - .298 OBP - .421 Jones 17 Seasons Games - 2218 Runs - 1482 Hits - 2446 HR - 430 RBI -1468 SB - 145 AVG - .306 OBP - .406 In 1 less season than Mantle Jones has put up equal numbers to him. The idea is not that farfetched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Wow, have I been hating "Larry" for that long?? He might be the all time worst Met killer; a great player. Quick list. Would'ya think? Mickey Mantle Frankie Frisch Chipper Jones Eddie Murray Carlos Beltran Howard Johnson Ken Caminiti George Posada Reggie Smith Bernie Williams Mantle is the only one I'd put above him, and Murray right about level. The rest all fall below IMO (can't really comment on the real old timers like Frish). Pretty impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 The Argument Mantle V Jones Mantle - 18 Seasons Games - 2401 Runs -1677 Hits - 2415 HR - 536 RBI - 1509 SB - 153 Avg - .298 OBP - .421 Jones 17 Seasons Games - 2218 Runs - 1482 Hits - 2446 HR - 430 RBI -1468 SB - 145 AVG - .306 OBP - .406 In 1 less season than Mantle Jones has put up equal numbers to him. The idea is not that farfetched. Ummmm...yeah, only 100 HR separate the two.... Look, I love Chipper and think he will be a HOFer, but he can't hold Mantle's jock, offensively or for that matter defensively. Best switch hitters would go 1- Mantle, 2- Murray (a close second, he had 3200+ hits and 500 HR) , 3- Chipper...not a bad list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Wow, have I been hating "Larry" for that long?? He might be the all time worst Met killer; a great player. Mantle is the only one I'd put above him, and Murray right about level. The rest all fall below IMO (can't really comment on the real old timers like Frish). Pretty impressive. The Fordam Flash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Look, I love Chipper and think he will be a HOFer, but he can't hold Mantle's jock, offensively or for that matter defensively. Agreed. And in general, ballpark dimensions have shrunk since Mantle's era, inflating modern stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taterhill Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 LARRY LARRY LARRY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Fitting that Cox and Chipper go out at the same time. The Braves were something of a dynasty to be honest...shame they only got 1 world series out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Also, it's important to remember that Chipper played in the teeth of the steroids era and his name never came up once. Not once. Another rarity is that Chipper was a true face of the franchise for the Braves who stayed with the team for his whole career, which is something you don't see very often in baseball anymore. Jeter, Mariano, and Posada for the Yankees. Biggio and Bagwell for the Astros. Chipper for the Braves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 one of my best baseball memories was from a Braves game 2 years ago. late in the game (7th inning?) the opposing pitcher beaned Chipper in the ankle. Chipper took a sec to try to walk it off, then decided he couldnt go and limped off the field... the entire crowd which had only been paying half-attention to the game up to this point started booing the pitcher. we (the ENTIRE crowd) continued to rain booes down on this pitcher between every pitch for the rest of the game. pitch after pitch, inning after inning, the booes came. it was just blatant, uneccessary booing. the kind that doesnt even effect the guy because its so ridiculous. we had a ton of fun yelling at him in unison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBeane Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Also, it's important to remember that Chipper played in the teeth of the steroids era and his name never came up once. Not once. Another rarity is that Chipper was a true face of the franchise for the Braves who stayed with the team for his whole career, which is something you don't see very often in baseball anymore. Jeter, Mariano, and Posada for the Yankees. Biggio and Bagwell for the Astros. Chipper for the Braves. Hopefully Pujols for the Cards too. Sorry, I'm a homer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Agreed. And in general, ballpark dimensions have shrunk since Mantle's era, inflating modern stats. Come visit the Reds' "Great American Ball Park." In its' brief existence, I believe it owns the HR season records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 Ummmm...yeah, only 100 HR separate the two.... Look, I love Chipper and think he will be a HOFer, but he can't hold Mantle's jock, offensively or for that matter defensively. Best switch hitters would go 1- Mantle, 2- Murray (a close second, he had 3200+ hits and 500 HR) , 3- Chipper...not a bad list. I knew that stat would come up. After seriously thinking about it i put Chipper as second best all time only behind Mantle. No offense to anyone, but only looking at at hitters HR stats does not tell how great of a hitter they actually were. Baseball created a monster where the only thing that matters now is how many HR's a guy finishes with, while the guys with over .300 BA get overlooked Fitting that Cox and Chipper go out at the same time. The Braves were something of a dynasty to be honest...shame they only got 1 world series out of it. Only team to ever win over 15 straight division titles!!! Come visit the Reds' "Great American Ball Park." In its' brief existence, I believe it owns the HR season records. Dont worry that soon will belong to the Yankees, and there super awesome "no one can afford a seat not in the nose bleeds" stadium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Wow, have I been hating "Larry" for that long?? He might be the all time worst Met killer; a great player. Mantle is the only one I'd put above him, and Murray right about level. The rest all fall below IMO (can't really comment on the real old timers like Frish). Pretty impressive. I'd like to see HoJo's numbers in comparison that guy was a hell of a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 I knew that stat would come up. After seriously thinking about it i put Chipper as second best all time only behind Mantle. No offense to anyone, but only looking at at hitters HR stats does not tell how great of a hitter they actually were. Baseball created a monster where the only thing that matters now is how many HR's a guy finishes with, while the guys with over .300 BA get overlooked Actually, sabermetricians (professional baseball stat analysts) have almost completely abandoned batting average as well, in favor of stuff like OPS, OPS+, VORP and WAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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