loyalbillsfan Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 As has been stated above, do NOT discount Hardy this year I would love for Hardy to have a break out year...I have a feeling though Stevie Johnson and Marcus Easley will be ahead of him on the depth chart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commish95 Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 I would love for Hardy to have a break out year...I have a feeling though Stevie Johnson and Marcus Easley will be ahead of him on the depth chart Would love to see your thinking behind why they will be ahead of Hardy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Why should Hardy not be discounted. Seriously. I would love for him to show up, but. Gailey says he prefers bigger receivers so we will have to see how this plays out. My guess is that Roscoe is a goner by the end of camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celtic_soulja Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Gailey says he prefers bigger receivers so we will have to see how this plays out. My guess is that Roscoe is a goner by the end of camp. heheheh...nah, I believe he'll still be here if he has a good camp... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Gailey says he prefers bigger receivers so we will have to see how this plays out. My guess is that Roscoe is a goner by the end of camp. He might stick because we need depth. But he's too small to be a full-timer on offense and with McKelvin's healthy return, Jackson's abilities and the addition of Spiller, he's not likely to be returning kicks neither. He may wind up camp fodder or just get burried in the depth chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bananathumb Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 I am not counting on ANY of the players he mentioned, except Levitre, who seems like a solid, average guard.. Some won't even be on the team. The only young guy I am counting on is Spiller. He looks great...and he better be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 The 3rd year has traditionally been the break-out year for WRs. Hopefully Hardy can follow Moulds career blueprint as he was irrelevant his first two seasons as well. Yeah, but that generally assumes they've been on the field more than five times in the first two years. I'd certainly like to see him (or any of them) develop this year but think we really need to find a vet WR before the season starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philo Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Gailey says he prefers bigger receivers so we will have to see how this plays out. My guess is that Roscoe is a goner by the end of camp. That's possible, but I think he may stick around just for veteran depth since so many of our WRs are young and inexperienced now. I do like Hardy and Johnson and hope that one of them if not both can break out this season. I also think Nelson has a chance to have a good year, he looked solid last year when he wasn't hurt. Made a few nice catches. As for the other players mentioned in the article, I think Levitre has a bright future ahead of him with the Bills, Carrington and Maybin should contribute this year and will only continue to get better and as for Brohm, I have no inclination whether or not he will be anything good, but it would be great if he broke out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityCheck Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 I remember the Bills Browns game on Monday night a few years ago. I saw Steve Johnson finding the soft spot in the zone the entire game and Trent could not find him. I saw that bulls*** in person and I wanted to throw up. The Browns were only rushing 3 for most of that game and Trent just kept checking it down. I mean no pressure either. He looked scared in the pocket and could not find receivers that were open all game. Back to my original point though, I've seen him get open a lot but would not get any looks. And if he did, it was only for a split second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Honestly, I would love to see Hardy step up. It is amazing how many people here are so quick to call Hardy a bust after a rookie season (where he caught more tds than Plexico and Moulds in thier rookie seasons). Supposedly, he tried to learn a lot from TO, has keep himself out of the news, and I believe even won a team award for his dedication and effort. A 6'6" receiver could be a huge asset to whoever is under center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geno Smith's Arm Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 It would be cool if they could package Lynch and Parrish in a trade for something of value. Parrish has good value as a return man at the very least, while Lynch could be a good 2nd punch for a team needing a good quality 2nd back. Is there a team that has those 2 needs out there? Seattle? 49ers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geno Smith's Arm Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 I would love for Hardy to have a break out year...I have a feeling though Stevie Johnson and Marcus Easley will be ahead of him on the depth chart I have a feeling that it's not gonna matter who is playing wide receiver, because the quarterbacking is gonna be so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 i really hope that hardy or johnson can break out this season...but ive been hoping for that for the past 2 years Yeah well, Jauron's gone. I don't think any of the Bills offensive players can be judged on Jauron's offense. Every one of those players is getting a fresh start in my book. I bet it feels like waking up from a nightmare for them. In fact I'll go so far as to say that about the whole team. A big problem was the former S&C coach. Not only do I feel he was responsible for the myriad of injuries that occurred but also for general conditioning. Each position requires a different training regimen in order to strengthen the muscle groups that are most used with that position. I don't think that was being addressed well enough. If the new trainers can do that a lot better then they will be making a huge upgrade for the team almost immediately. There are now two guys working with players instead of one and I think that alone will make a huge difference. Strengthening the most important muscles first, it seems to me, would also make injuries less common. So any player who had significant injuries I'm willing to give wide leverage to. Hopefully the new trainers will be able to strengthen Bells back better and rehab his knee and take care of Hardy, Woods (I don't blame that on Allaire), just about every other injury on the OL, TE, Leodis McKelvin and all of the other injured guys. Too many to count. Here's a list of the injuries for the final game; Marcus Stroud DT Illness Did Not Participate In Practice -- Trent Edwards QB Ankle Did Not Participate In Practice Out Nic Harris LB Knee Did Not Participate In Practice Out Todd Johnson S Hamstring Did Not Participate In Practice Out Steve Johnson WR Ankle Did Not Participate In Practice Out Andre Ramsey T Calf Did Not Participate In Practice Out Josh Reed WR Ankle Did Not Participate In Practice Out Bryan Scott LB Head Did Not Participate In Practice Out Jonathan Scott T Ankle Did Not Participate In Practice Out Ashlee Palmer LB Ankle Did Not Participate In Practice Doubtful Shawn Nelson TE Illness Did Not Participate In Practice Questionable Donte Whitner S Illness Did Not Participate In Practice Questionable Ryan Fitzpatrick QB Ankle Full Participation in Practice Probable Jonathan Stupar TE Knee Full Participation in Practice Probable If this team comes out in better condition that alone could help some guys really break out. JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Here's a week by week look at last years injury reports; Week 1 Derek Fine TE Hamstring Did Not Participate In Practice Out Drayton Florence CB Knee Did Not Participate In Practice Out Spencer Johnson DT Thigh Full Participation in Practice Probable Week 2 Paul Posluszny LB Forearm Did Not Participate In Practice Out Terrence McGee CB Back Did Not Participate In Practice Questionable Derek Fine TE Hamstring Full Participation in Practice Probable Drayton Florence CB Knee Full Participation in Practice Probable Chris Kelsay DE Knee Full Participation in Practice Probable Aaron Schobel DE Back Full Participation in Practice Probable Week 3 Paul Posluszny LB Forearm Did Not Participate In Practice Out Brad Butler T Knee Out (Definitely Will Not Play) Out Derek Schouman TE Knee Out (Definitely Will Not Play) Out John McCargo DT Calf Did Not Participate In Practice Doubtful Shawn Nelson TE Shoulder Did Not Participate In Practice Doubtful Terrence McGee CB Ankle Limited Participation in Practice Questionable Josh Reed WR Ankle Limited Participation in Practice Questionable Geoff Hangartner C Back Full Participation in Practice Probable Leodis McKelvin CB Fibula Full Participation in Practice Probable Roscoe Parrish WR Quadricep Full Participation in Practice Probable Week 4 Demetrius Bell T Groin Did Not Participate In Practice Out John McCargo DT Calf Did Not Participate In Practice Out Leodis McKelvin CB Fibula Did Not Participate In Practice Out Paul Posluszny LB Forearm Did Not Participate In Practice Out Bryan Scott S Ankle Did Not Participate In Practice Out Donte Whitner S Thumb Did Not Participate In Practice Out Shawn Nelson TE Shoulder Full Participation in Practice Probable Kyle Williams DT Groin Full Participation in Practice Probable Week 5 Chris Ellis DE Not Injury Related Did Not Participate In Practice Out Paul Posluszny LB Forearm Did Not Participate In Practice Out Bryan Scott S Ankle Did Not Participate In Practice Out Donte Whitner S Thumb Did Not Participate In Practice Out Ellis Lankster CB Back Did Not Participate In Practice Questionable Demetrius Bell T Groin Full Participation in Practice Probable Jairus Byrd S Hip Full Participation in Practice Probable John McCargo DT Calf Full Participation in Practice Probable Terrence McGee CB Knee Full Participation in Practice Probable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Week 6 Marcus Buggs LB Knee Did Not Participate In Practice Out Kawika Mitchell LB Knee Did Not Participate In Practice Out Jonathan Scott T Ankle Did Not Participate In Practice Out Bryan Scott S Ankle Did Not Participate In Practice Out Keith Ellison LB Knee Did Not Participate In Practice Questionable Josh Reed WR Fibula Did Not Participate In Practice Probable Terrence McGee CB Knee Full Participation in Practice Probable Paul Posluszny LB Forearm Full Participation in Practice Probable Donte Whitner S Thumb Full Participation in Practice Probable Roscoe Parrish WR Thigh Limited Participation in Practice Probable Week 7 Xavier Omon RB Illness Did Not Participate In Practice -- Terrell Owens WR Not Injury Related Did Not Participate In Practice -- Trent Edwards QB Head Did Not Participate In Practice Out Bryan Scott S Ankle Did Not Participate In Practice Out Jonathan Scott T Ankle Did Not Participate In Practice Out Donte Whitner S Ankle Did Not Participate In Practice Out Shawn Nelson TE Illness Did Not Participate In Practice Doubtful Kyle Williams DT Shoulder Limited Participation in Practice Questionable Terrence McGee CB Knee Full Participation in Practice Probable Chris Kelsay DE Eye Limited Participation in Practice Probable Week 8 Terrell Owens WR Not Injury Related Did Not Participate In Practice -- Corey McIntyre RB Knee Did Not Participate In Practice Out Shawn Nelson TE Illness Did Not Participate In Practice Out Jonathan Scott T Ankle Did Not Participate In Practice Out Donte Whitner S Ankle Did Not Participate In Practice Out Kyle Williams DT Knee Did Not Participate In Practice Out Trent Edwards QB Head Limited Participation in Practice Out Bryan Scott S Ankle Full Participation in Practice Questionable Chris Kelsay DE Back Full Participation in Practice Probable Terrence McGee CB Knee Full Participation in Practice Probable Week 9/Bye week Week 10 Keith Ellison LB Thigh Did Not Participate In Practice Out Terrence McGee CB Knee Did Not Participate In Practice Out Kyle Williams DT Knee Did Not Participate In Practice Out Jamon Meredith T Knee Limited Participation in Practice Questionable Terrell Owens WR Hip Limited Participation in Practice Questionable Roscoe Parrish WR Knee Limited Participation in Practice Questionable Aaron Schobel DE Groin Limited Participation in Practice Questionable Donte Whitner S Ankle Limited Participation in Practice Questionable Jairus Byrd S Groin Full Participation in Practice Probable Trent Edwards QB Head Full Participation in Practice Probable Corey McIntyre RB Knee Full Participation in Practice Probable Shawn Nelson TE Illness Full Participation in Practice Probable Bryan Scott S Ankle Full Participation in Practice Probable Jonathan Scott T Ankle Full Participation in Practice Probable Week 11 Nic Harris LB Illness Did Not Participate In Practice -- Justin Jenkins WR Illness Did Not Participate In Practice -- Roscoe Parrish WR Illness Did Not Participate In Practice -- Jonathan Scott T Not Injury Related Did Not Participate In Practice -- Demetrius Bell T Knee Did Not Participate In Practice Out Keith Ellison LB Thigh Did Not Participate In Practice Out Derek Fine TE Knee Did Not Participate In Practice Out Marcus Stroud DT Knee Did Not Participate In Practice Out Ashton Youboty CB Ankle Did Not Participate In Practice Out Jairus Byrd S Groin Limited Participation in Practice Questionable James Hardy WR Groin Limited Participation in Practice Questionable Terrence McGee CB Knee Limited Participation in Practice Questionable Kyle Williams DT Knee Limited Participation in Practice Questionable Week 12 Demetrius Bell T Knee Did Not Participate In Practice Out John McCargo DT Calf Did Not Participate In Practice Out Ashton Youboty CB Ankle Did Not Participate In Practice Out Jairus Byrd S Groin Limited Participation in Practice Questionable Terrence McGee CB Knee Limited Participation in Practice Questionable Marcus Stroud DT Knee Limited Participation in Practice Questionable Nic Harris LB Not Injury Related Did Not Participate In Practice Probable Chris Kelsay DE Shoulder Limited Participation in Practice Probable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Week 13 Todd Johnson S Not Injury Related Did Not Participate In Practice -- Shawn Nelson TE Not Injury Related Did Not Participate In Practice -- Chris Draft LB Neck Limited Participation in Practice -- Demetrius Bell T Knee Did Not Participate In Practice Out John McCargo DT Calf Did Not Participate In Practice Out Ashton Youboty CB Ankle Did Not Participate In Practice Out Jairus Byrd S Groin Limited Participation in Practice Questionable Terrence McGee CB Knee Limited Participation in Practice Questionable Week 14 Chris Kelsay DE Not Injury Related Did Not Participate In Practice -- Demetrius Bell T Knee Did Not Participate In Practice Out Justin Jenkins WR Knee Did Not Participate In Practice Out Joe Klopfenstein TE Ankle Did Not Participate In Practice Out Jairus Byrd S Groin Limited Participation in Practice Questionable Kirk Chambers T Ankle Limited Participation in Practice Questionable Ryan Denney DE Shoulder Limited Participation in Practice Questionable Chris Draft LB Neck Limited Participation in Practice Questionable Todd Johnson S Hamstring Limited Participation in Practice Questionable Andy Levitre G Shoulder Limited Participation in Practice Questionable John McCargo DT Calf Full Participation in Practice Probable Shawn Nelson TE Shoulder Full Participation in Practice Probable Ashton Youboty CB Ankle Full Participation in Practice Probable Week 15 Joe Klopfenstein TE Ankle Limited Participation in Practice -- Kendall Simmons G Shoulder Did Not Participate In Practice Out Terrell Owens WR Illness Did Not Participate In Practice Questionable Justin Jenkins WR Knee Limited Participation in Practice Questionable Jamon Meredith T Ankle Limited Participation in Practice Questionable Jonathan Scott T Eye Limited Participation in Practice Questionable Jairus Byrd S Groin Limited Participation in Practice Probable Week 16 James Hardy WR Illness Did Not Participate In Practice -- Trent Edwards QB Ankle Did Not Participate In Practice Out Todd Johnson S Hamstring Did Not Participate In Practice Out Bryan Scott LB Head Did Not Participate In Practice Out Ryan Fitzpatrick QB Ankle Did Not Participate In Practice Questionable Drayton Florence CB Illness Did Not Participate In Practice Questionable Ashlee Palmer LB Ankle Limited Participation in Practice Questionable Josh Reed WR Ankle Limited Participation in Practice Questionable Week 17 Marcus Stroud DT Illness Did Not Participate In Practice -- Trent Edwards QB Ankle Did Not Participate In Practice Out Nic Harris LB Knee Did Not Participate In Practice Out Todd Johnson S Hamstring Did Not Participate In Practice Out Steve Johnson WR Ankle Did Not Participate In Practice Out Andre Ramsey T Calf Did Not Participate In Practice Out Josh Reed WR Ankle Did Not Participate In Practice Out Bryan Scott LB Head Did Not Participate In Practice Out Jonathan Scott T Ankle Did Not Participate In Practice Out Ashlee Palmer LB Ankle Did Not Participate In Practice Doubtful Shawn Nelson TE Illness Did Not Participate In Practice Questionable Donte Whitner S Illness Did Not Participate In Practice Questionable Ryan Fitzpatrick QB Ankle Full Participation in Practice Probable Jonathan Stupar TE Knee Full Participation in Practice Probable IIRC, the Bills were the most injured team last year and one of the top 5 most injured in 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasBB Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Hardy was gone for the season. Johnson could never get on the field as Fewell put his eggs on Owens, Evans and Reed.... I hope Hardy, Johnson and Nelson get to be on the field more often than not. You didn't happen to be George Bush's speech writer, did you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commish95 Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 I remember the Bills Browns game on Monday night a few years ago. I saw Steve Johnson finding the soft spot in the zone the entire game and Trent could not find him. I saw that bulls*** in person and I wanted to throw up. The Browns were only rushing 3 for most of that game and Trent just kept checking it down. I mean no pressure either. He looked scared in the pocket and could not find receivers that were open all game. Back to my original point though, I've seen him get open a lot but would not get any looks. And if he did, it was only for a split second. If I recall, He also dropped a critical 3rd down pass that was right in his chest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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