billsfreak Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 OJ was great but I wasn't gonna say it because that's not what this threads about but here it is did Barry Sanders ever have a supporting cast. they are tied for greatest all time if anything Barry edges him out. Although I do think O.J. was slightly better than Barry Sanders, I never even referred to Sanders, this post was just a reply to the fact that everyone knew O.J. was getting the ball pretty much every play and they still couldn't stop him. This post was about the best Bills players ever, not players period. But, while you mention it, if I recall and my memory isn't perfect, I believe Herman Moore had a couple huge seasons receiving, something the O.J. Bills never had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 He did it for almost all of his career your arguing with nfl network and espn and I looked into it myself as best as I could. Just to give you an idea Richard Seymour has 43 sacks over his 9 year career Bruce had 106 over the first 9 years of his career and only played in 5 games for one of those seasons. Did you have to throw that in? The lowest point of his great career if I am not mistaken, he only played in that amount of games because of a drug suspension. I might be wrong and I am sure if I am I will be corrected on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Bruce is the best DE to ever play in the NFL, as his sack record affirms. By comparison, TT and OJ were great, but not in NFL's top 10 all time RB's. Same for kelly, best bills qb but not one of the 10 best QB's in NFL history. Bruce was a first ballot HOF'er. Bruce is the best Bills player ever... Sorry. OJ not int he top 10 of all time great RBs? Preposterous at best. Yeah, I know it's a subjective thing but even by subjective measures OJ simply cannot be dismissed. At a minimum, he's top three all time. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 I believe the only argument against it is that Ed 'too tall' Jones might've had more sacks than Bruce if they had kept sacks as a stat back then. If anyone would have had more sacks back then when they didn't keep track of them it would have been Deacon Jones, the man who created the phrase "sack." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wide_right Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Sorry. OJ not int he top 10 of all time great RBs? Preposterous at best. Yeah, I know it's a subjective thing but even by subjective measures OJ simply cannot be dismissed. At a minimum, he's top three all time. GO BILLS!!! top 10 rbs no particular order: emmitt oj payton sanders sayers dickerson brown dorsett thomas campbell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Easily Kelly. Without him there is no way they go to 4 Super Bowls. Look at the Bills records both before and after Kelly. Clearly he was the key ingredient of those teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostyle126 Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 If anyone would have had more sacks back then when they didn't keep track of them it would have been Deacon Jones, the man who created the phrase "sack." yeah, I already corrected myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostyle126 Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 i dont think any bill olineman was as respected, so yes, joe d as far as olinemen Billy Shaw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCDAWG Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Lonnie Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostyle126 Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Lonnie Johnson Remember when he got lit up by Darren Sharper of the Packers on a fake punt? I hated Lonnie Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCDAWG Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Remember when he got lit up by Darren Sharper of the Packers on a fake punt? I hated Lonnie Johnson. I think his nickname was "stonehands" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 top 10 rbs no particular order: emmitt oj payton sanders sayers dickerson brown dorsett thomas campbell Emmitt Smith might have the most yards ever, but no way is he higher on a list then O.J., Walter Payton or Jim Brown. Me personally, I would probably give the nod to Walter Payton slightly over O.J. as the best back ever. Outside of 1985, which was at the end of Walter's career, he pretty much played on mediocre at best teams, with no passing game and he still tore up defenses like O.J. did. Without looking it up, can anyone name a QB that Payton had before McMahon? I didn't think so. Joe Fergy was better than anything Payton ever had, as was Bobby Chandler, Jerry Butler, Frank Lewis were probably all better than any receiver the Bears had until the very end of Payton's career, and maybe even then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufcomments Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 OJ......hands down was the Best talent we ever had. I saw every game of the 73 season when he had 2003 yds in 14 games. my top 5 OJ Thurman Bruce Smith Jim Kelly Andre Reed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufcomments Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Easily Kelly. Without him there is no way they go to 4 Super Bowls. Look at the Bills records both before and after Kelly. Clearly he was the key ingredient of those teams. Thurman was more important than Kelly if you ask me. But Kelly was the best leader we had.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostyle126 Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 it's so hard to ask "who was more important, Kelly or Thomas"...the K-gun was such a well-oiled machine. Reich often stepped in and looked great. Kenneth Davis often stepped in and looked great. I mean, we were without Kelly AND Thurman against Houston and still pulled off the greatest comeback ever...and then the following week did it again without Kelly or Thurman when we beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh, 24-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 OJ Simpson in his prime was arguably the most dominant player in all of football, let alone the bills. Though i cant stand the guy now, i'd probably say OJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Jimmy Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Much as it pains me to say it. I have to go with OJ. You might as well call the Ralph "the house that OJ built" with out him the stadium would not have been built and certainly would not have held 80,000+. Also you can thank OJ for the "streaking buffalo" logo. The man WAS the franchise, without him, no one would have known the Bills existed at the time (much like now) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VADC Bills Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Emmitt Smith might have the most yards ever, but no way is he higher on a list then O.J., Walter Payton or Jim Brown. Me personally, I would probably give the nod to Walter Payton slightly over O.J. as the best back ever. Outside of 1985, which was at the end of Walter's career, he pretty much played on mediocre at best teams, with no passing game and he still tore up defenses like O.J. did. Without looking it up, can anyone name a QB that Payton had before McMahon? I didn't think so. Joe Fergy was better than anything Payton ever had, as was Bobby Chandler, Jerry Butler, Frank Lewis were probably all better than any receiver the Bears had until the very end of Payton's career, and maybe even then. Good list. Brown was the only RB that was better than OJ. If you had seen them play there wouldn't be any question about it. Lets not forget OJ didn't play on good teams either. They were very mediocre teams. If you go to Chicago they will probably have a hard time naming the Bills QB's when OJ was there as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Squirrel Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 yeah, I already corrected myself. Actually, I corrected you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Squirrel Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Did you have to throw that in? The lowest point of his great career if I am not mistaken, he only played in that amount of games because of a drug suspension. I might be wrong and I am sure if I am I will be corrected on this board. You are mistaken; the drug suspension was for 4 games in '88. In 1991, he missed all but 5 games because of knee surgery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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