bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Maybe Nix was blowing smoke screens when he said he wanted experienced head coach. Just seems hot coordinators havent gotten us anywhere of late however Atlanta had success with sort of no name GM and coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fewell733 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 anyone who hasn't yet should really watch the Nix one on one interview with Chris Brown. He gives a pretty candid assessment of what he's looking for with a head coach and with players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 "Those who listen to the fans wind up sitting with them."-- Marv Levy PTR Except for Levy. He didn't listen to the fans, and he's still sitting with them. Oh, wait...so is Jauron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macaroni Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 I can come up with 20 reasons that are fairly obvious to most of us. Again you will be happy with this hire ? I'll redily admit that I am BY FAR not the most astute football mind on this site ..... but I can't think of even one obvious reason (other than he wasn't in my top three or four I would have picked). Would you be so kind as to enlighten me with just ...... oh ..... let's say just the top 10 obvious reasons why he would be a bad hire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkc Posted January 7, 2010 Author Share Posted January 7, 2010 I'll redily admit that I am BY FAR not the most astute football mind on this site ..... but I can't think of even one obvious reason (other than he wasn't in my top three or four I would have picked). Would you be so kind as to enlighten me with just ...... oh ..... let's say just the top 10 obvious reasons why he would be a bad hire? in order of importance 1 no head coaching expierence. At this time I think we need to get as close to a sure thing as we can. 10 years is a long dry spell 2 tampa two , lets get big on d 3 I woulnd't mind a top notch d guy but the Vikings are not that unit . 2000 ravens were and it is not like Marvin Lewis has been the next Lombardi . 4 leslie ,really , we want a coach named leslie 5 Brian Billick is still out there 6 The Bills really need a complete offensive overhaul . It seems to me we could just keep perry if this is the route we are going 7 leslie we really want a coach neamed leslie 8 I don't know but I liked trying The bottom line is we have been hyped on Cowher for a week . This is a huge comedown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uforesircher Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Sports writer nice, the last guy picked in gym class just pathetc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 why do you guys insist on feeding the trolls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 in order of importance 1 no head coaching expierence. At this time I think we need to get as close to a sure thing as we can. 10 years is a long dry spell 2 tampa two , lets get big on d 3 I woulnd't mind a top notch d guy but the Vikings are not that unit . 2000 ravens were and it is not like Marvin Lewis has been the next Lombardi . 4 leslie ,really , we want a coach named leslie 5 Brian Billick is still out there 6 The Bills really need a complete offensive overhaul . It seems to me we could just keep perry if this is the route we are going 7 leslie we really want a coach neamed leslie 8 I don't know but I liked trying The bottom line is we have been hyped on Cowher for a week . This is a huge comedown. First of all, you have been hyped on Cowher. No one in the media nor the Bills FO have hyped up talk about Cowher. It's kinda like everyone getting amped up over Billick, despite the fact that he's repeated said that no one from Buffalo has contacted him. Secondly, no one is saying they're hiring anyone. They're interviewing Frazier. Can it really hurt to go talk to someone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 According to respected (and resident) sports writer John Wawrow "Frazier's been a hot commodity for some time now. and the bills have already addressed the Rooney rule when they met with Perry. he is a good coach, with a solid reputation, who's just missed out on several other jobs over the past few years. am told he might even be the best coordinator candidate out there. ... that remains to be seen, but he's a sure-fire candidate." I'll take JW's opinion before yours, unless you have some credentials you'd like to let us all know about. If not, please go back to crying about something else... He's a liberal weenie. Besides what makes you think his opinion is any better than anyone else's? ( no offense JW, it could have been peter king they were talking about) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Sports writer nice, the last guy picked in gym class right, only because you missed that day still recovering from the wedgie. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkc Posted January 12, 2010 Author Share Posted January 12, 2010 right, only because you missed that day still recovering from the wedgie. jw that was a cheap shot and I apologize , that said it interesting that the word wedgie is still in your vocabulary , by the way any new news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Seems like it is about 95 percent against , If anyone cares and anyone reads these things it is time to let them know. Say no to Frazier im against frazier. who's frazier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 I can come up with 20 reasons that are fairly obvious to most of us. Again you will be happy with this hire ? Then come up with them or be quiet. You sound irrational. You mean to tell us that Harbaugh is MORE qualified to be the Bills HC than Frazier? You already lost credibility. Everyone wanted a HC with previous HC experience and a track record of success. That doesn't appear to be an option unless they bring in Billick. If we go the coordinator route then Frazier is as good a candidate as any other if not more so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 in order of importance 1 no head coaching expierence. At this time I think we need to get as close to a sure thing as we can. 10 years is a long dry spell 2 tampa two , lets get big on d 3 I woulnd't mind a top notch d guy but the Vikings are not that unit . 2000 ravens were and it is not like Marvin Lewis has been the next Lombardi . 4 leslie ,really , we want a coach named leslie 5 Brian Billick is still out there 6 The Bills really need a complete offensive overhaul . It seems to me we could just keep perry if this is the route we are going 7 leslie we really want a coach neamed leslie 8 I don't know but I liked trying The bottom line is we have been hyped on Cowher for a week . This is a huge comedown. I'm glad you finally listed your reasons. 1. Nix said he prefers HC experience. He did not specify at what level. Frazier was a head man at a small college. 2. It's not the Tampa 2. It's the players running it. The Vikings D utilizes BIG linemen in the middle and Big LB's. 3. The Vikings D is a very good unit. The Ravens 2000 defense was one of the best in history. That doesn't happen every year or every five years or ten. You cannot say because Marvin Lewis coached a great defense and in your opinion isn't Lombardi (how many HC's are in that class?) that Frazier won't be good. This is an illogical argument. 4. You wasted time typing that? Are you still in nursery school?? 5. I agree he should be interviewed, but that's no bearing on Frazier's qualifications. 6. Who's to say Frazier does not have a great offensive philosophy and connects to coaches who can implement it? If the Bills were as impressed with him as has been reported he would have had to address these two factors. 7. Yes, if he's the best candidate. 8. True. But Cowher was never a guarantee. Why do you want a coach who doesn't have the balls to take the job? If Frazier is the best candidate and he WANTS the challenge you can't beat that. And there is nothing that says Frazier will be the guy. It's only 10 days in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsRUs Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 "Those who listen to the fans wind up sitting with them." -- Marv Levy PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 that was a cheap shot and I apologize , that said it interesting that the word wedgie is still in your vocabulary , by the way any new news no problem, and apology accepted. wedgie, though, is too good of a word to pass up in any situation. as for news, i wrote something on another post noting how highly respected Leslie Frazier is in NFL circles. i do think Brian Schottenheimer has a shot, my only question is his age. that said, Nix knows him. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfw1234 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 I can come up with 20 reasons that are fairly obvious to most of us. Again you will be happy with this hire ? one method for diagnosing insanity -- expecting different results when replicating the same activity, repeatedly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfish Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Seems like it is about 95 percent against , If anyone cares and anyone reads these things it is time to let them know. Say no to Frazier I'm sure that will change. If we hire him I'm sure almost everyone will come around after his introductory press conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkc Posted January 12, 2010 Author Share Posted January 12, 2010 Then come up with them or be quiet. You sound irrational. You mean to tell us that Harbaugh is MORE qualified to be the Bills HC than Frazier? You already lost credibility. Everyone wanted a HC with previous HC experience and a track record of success. That doesn't appear to be an option unless they bring in Billick. If we go the coordinator route then Frazier is as good a candidate as any other if not more so. I want an expierenced head coach. I agree that Billick seems to be off the radar for some reason. That said I do not want to continue with the tampa two d. I have no interest in a college coach (harbaugh). As time goes by little shot is looing better and better. Power running game and developing young qb's appeal to me . It is just my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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