Buffaloed in Pa Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 Tells me the Bills might be moving soon after Ralph passes. THAT is why nobody wants to coach here. Uncertainty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twist_to_open Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 F Shanahan!!! and the bronco he rides in on!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 haven't there been some front office (non scouting/coaching "football") people who have left the organization in the last 12 months? one was an employee for quite a while. These gm candidates view the Bills like a cancerous object. Holmgren probably laughed till he fell out of his chair. Yet he has no problem to sign quickly with the sadcase Cleveland Browns. It isn't just that... you see national media, no matter the television network and the Bills are treated like the league's court jester. Almost view it like "what's the point". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saudi Arabia Rob Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 No surprise here....would you want to come to this horsesh-t of a team? This team is at least 3+ years away from being taken seriously at all. And only if they get lucky and get the right QB..... Â Along with a potential team sale to a new owner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChimp Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 I bet Ralph's having a really good Christmas, though, and that's what's really important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 Maybe Ralph will see the light and realize he's gotta let go. No one who has other options or doesn't have a sentimental connection to Buffalo is coming here with a 91 year old owner who has no succession plan in place. Even if Ralph ran a tip-top organization, which he clearly doesn't, why would Shanahan or Cowher come here when there is a high probability they will have a new boss before their contract is up and Ralph can't even guarantee where the team will be when he moves on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 haven't there been some front office (non scouting/coaching "football") people who have left the organization in the last 12 months? one was an employee for quite a while. These gm candidates view the Bills like a cancerous object. Holmgren probably laughed till he fell out of his chair. Yet he has no problem to sign quickly with the sadcase Cleveland Browns. It isn't just that... you see national media, no matter the television network and the Bills are treated like the league's court jester. Almost view it like "what's the point". Uncertainty ,Charlkie that is the main reason,as stated before. The Browns must be staying for awhile. The Bills,???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 Uncertainty ,Charlkie that is the main reason,as stated before. The Browns must be staying for awhile. The Bills,???? Â The impression I get from reading the articles and getting a sense of what the bigger name GMs and coaches are thinking... they don't see one positive aspect within the Buffalo Bills organization. From the ownership to the coaching, players, scouting staffs, they must see a reclamation project that they are just not interested in dealing with. I sense they view it as a reclamation project that can't be fixed. And yes, you can throw re-location in the mix as well. The Bills' situation is toxic, there's no other way to put it. Â There's a culture of losing within the organization... and perhaps that has worn on Aaron Schobel so much that's he's ready to hang up the cleats. Horrid quarterback, horrid OT play, lacking at the skill positions. No formidable pass rush, weak run defense... nearly non-existent WR. That's one hell of a mess to clean up. Add in a lease agreement that expires in three years... Ralph can make it $10 million or $100 million, I think he's going to be really scraping to find any takers. It's a travesty, what has happened to this organization. No playoffs in a decade, no division title in 14 years!!! No home playoff game in 13 years!!! They have bled the fanbase badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChimp Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 And a partridge in a pear tree....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharper802 Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 Now everyone can come back to the reality of living and rooting for a team in Buffalo. Noone wants to come to Buffalo except an aging primadona WR that can't find work anywhere else. Even Owens said "it wasn't ideal". The best the Bills can hope for is a hot shot coordinator. What we will probably get is a retread HC - Martz or Fox most likely. I don't think this is all bad. Shanahan's record while very good is not that great over the last few years. His defenses have been awful and his personnel choices even worse. Maurice Clarrett - third round. In Washington he will have a credible GM. In Buffalo he would have had a car salesman for a GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharper802 Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 The impression I get from reading the articles and getting a sense of what the bigger name GMs and coaches are thinking... they don't see one positive aspect within the Buffalo Bills organization. From the ownership to the coaching, players, scouting staffs, they must see a reclamation project that they are just not interested in dealing with. I sense they view it as a reclamation project that can't be fixed. And yes, you can throw re-location in the mix as well. The Bills' situation is toxic, there's no other way to put it. Â There's a culture of losing within the organization... and perhaps that has worn on Aaron Schobel so much that's he's ready to hang up the cleats. Horrid quarterback, horrid OT play, lacking at the skill positions. No formidable pass rush, weak run defense... nearly non-existent WR. That's one hell of a mess to clean up. Add in a lease agreement that expires in three years... Ralph can make it $10 million or $100 million, I think he's going to be really scraping to find any takers. It's a travesty, what has happened to this organization. No playoffs in a decade, no division title in 14 years!!! No home playoff game in 13 years!!! They have bled the fanbase badly. Â Don't worry they will be in LA soon enough and you can think back with fond memories of Will Wolford and Howard Ballard..... Hmmm is it really that hard to run a team.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 Didn't we beat the Broncos in Denver last year with our dog**** roster and Jauron as HC. Somebody please tell me again why Shanahan was elevated to GOD status? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DELLAPELLE JOHN Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 The impression I get from reading the articles and getting a sense of what the bigger name GMs and coaches are thinking... they don't see one positive aspect within the Buffalo Bills organization. From the ownership to the coaching, players, scouting staffs, they must see a reclamation project that they are just not interested in dealing with. I sense they view it as a reclamation project that can't be fixed. And yes, you can throw re-location in the mix as well. The Bills' situation is toxic, there's no other way to put it. Â There's a culture of losing within the organization... and perhaps that has worn on Aaron Schobel so much that's he's ready to hang up the cleats. Horrid quarterback, horrid OT play, lacking at the skill positions. No formidable pass rush, weak run defense... nearly non-existent WR. That's one hell of a mess to clean up. Add in a lease agreement that expires in three years... Ralph can make it $10 million or $100 million, I think he's going to be really scraping to find any takers. It's a travesty, what has happened to this organization. No playoffs in a decade, no division title in 14 years!!! No home playoff game in 13 years!!! They have bled the fanbase badly. Â Â first off put down the bottle and try not to kill yourself, Â secondly the bills are going nowhere. the fan base wont allow it. Â thirdly if the lions got a new gm, we can too. i live in detroit and the lions have been at the bottom for 40 years. so relax. Â the team simply needs a competent gm, there tons to choose from. most people that are in the business of being a talent evaluator want to start from scratch.... if the 1 -15 dolphins can get bill parcells, im sure we can get someone that is competent to run this thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DELLAPELLE JOHN Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 im actually excited about this offseason because we have a chance to really build from new and hire a real gm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 If reports were true that he wants to bring his DC from the Broncos, to run the 3-4 no less, the Bills didn't want him. And the point about only 1 coach ever winning a SB with another team is something that can't be overlooked, while Shanahan hasn't won one in over a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChimp Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 secondly the bills are going nowhere. the fan base wont allow it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 The impression I get from reading the articles and getting a sense of what the bigger name GMs and coaches are thinking... they don't see one positive aspect within the Buffalo Bills organization. From the ownership to the coaching, players, scouting staffs, they must see a reclamation project that they are just not interested in dealing with. I sense they view it as a reclamation project that can't be fixed. And yes, you can throw re-location in the mix as well. The Bills' situation is toxic, there's no other way to put it. Â There's a culture of losing within the organization... and perhaps that has worn on Aaron Schobel so much that's he's ready to hang up the cleats. Horrid quarterback, horrid OT play, lacking at the skill positions. No formidable pass rush, weak run defense... nearly non-existent WR. That's one hell of a mess to clean up. Add in a lease agreement that expires in three years... Ralph can make it $10 million or $100 million, I think he's going to be really scraping to find any takers. It's a travesty, what has happened to this organization. No playoffs in a decade, no division title in 14 years!!! No home playoff game in 13 years!!! They have bled the fanbase badly. Agreed. It's not the WNY region and it's certainly not the fanbase... it's the organization, total garbage from top to bottom (but especially at the top). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 first off put down the bottle and try not to kill yourself, Â secondly the bills are going nowhere. the fan base wont allow it. Â thirdly if the lions got a new gm, we can too. i live in detroit and the lions have been at the bottom for 40 years. so relax. Â the team simply needs a competent gm, there tons to choose from. most people that are in the business of being a talent evaluator want to start from scratch.... if the 1 -15 dolphins can get bill parcells, im sure we can get someone that is competent to run this thing. Â Â BTW, the Lions GM Martin Mayhew (ironically a former Buffalo Bills player) was already in the Detroit organization before he was promoted to replace the fired Matt Millen. That is how they got their "new" GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DELLAPELLE JOHN Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 there was multiple gms wanting the lions job. mayhew impressed ownership just before the offseason with the roy williams trade that landed them 3 picks so they decided to go with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan032002 Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 See, the problem is no one wants to come to buffalo to coach. That's why we are going to get a bad coach, not because of the unwillingless of russ brandon to look, but because no one wants the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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