H2o Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 They've given up 5 sack in the first half and every single time Campbell drops back to pass he is getting hammered. It's really sad to watch. They are, without a doubt, the worst OL in football. Worse than the Bills by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 you mean the awesome 7 million dollar man Dickery Dockery isn't holding the line together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Lieutenant Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 you mean the awesome 7 million dollar man Dickery Dockery isn't holding the line together? Don't forget Mike Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geno Smith's Arm Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 Well now I feel better.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazed and Amuzed Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 Well now I feel better.... My thoughts exactly! We may not have the worst line, but it still sucks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Fan888 Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 See, were not the worst team in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 40% of the Redskins line is made up of guys the Bills thought were talent they could burn a #4 overall pick and then the biggest contract in franchise history. I think I need to go throw up now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PushthePile Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 The Packers o-line is every bit as bad as the Skins'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cson76 Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 Packers O-line is garbage, and for all of those out there yelling to sign someone for the line, they just resigned their right tackle Tauscher, he's done, which shows you at week 9 there is no good talent left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conch Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 Guys, the argument "well, we don't suck as bad as someone else" is a lame argument. Our line, offense and coaching sucks plain and simple. Do not try to make our situation sound better than it is because someone may be worse. We are abysmal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 Guys, the argument "well, we don't suck as bad as someone else" is a lame argument. Our line, offense and coaching sucks plain and simple. Do not try to make our situation sound better than it is because someone may be worse. We are abysmal. Obviously we like the guys we've got, and the guys before that we liked as well. I thought about making changes to the OL earlier in the off-season, and when you think about it, you have to do it. We have a lot to work to do protecting our QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyboy Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 I like the guys we've got...And they will get better.... But...establish a running game and give them some confidence... These guys are green. Line em up and let them kick someones as--s.. Instead we go no huddle with a bunch of rookies and have them looking at each other going...Huh? Build a line, establish a running game...And MAYBE...I said Maybe....Trent might look like a half way decent QB.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 Packers O-line is garbage, and for all of those out there yelling to sign someone for the line, they just resigned their right tackle Tauscher, he's done, which shows you at week 9 there is no good talent left. Everybody wanted Jamon Meredith. Honestly, this weekend has been the best our line has looked in a long time. (I know it is the "bye" week.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 Most posters here call Trent Edwards captain checkdown, but they fail to realize that his ability to get rid of the ball to the RB is the reason this Bills team is not the worst rated line in the NFL. The Bills have improved in the middle with the new center and guards, but the tackle position has been horrible because of injuries. The Bills have some "decent' young tackles, but they can't seem to stay healthy. I'd rate this Bills line just as bad as Green Bay's and Washington's because of injuries and the replacements that are not getting the job done. If you doubt this then go back and watch that Saints game again. How many severe concussions have the Redskins and Packers allowed to their QB's the last two years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 i know all about hindsight but could you imagine if we would have taken oher in the first round. either right at 11 or traded down to take him right before the ravens. we would have a line that would be together for so many years and trent sit back there all day long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 I like the guys we've got...And they will get better.... But...establish a running game and give them some confidence... These guys are green. Line em up and let them kick someones as--s.. Instead we go no huddle with a bunch of rookies and have them looking at each other going...Huh? Build a line, establish a running game...And MAYBE...I said Maybe....Trent might look like a half way decent QB.. After four seasons and two OL overhauls, DJ does not have a cogent plan to build an offense. It's no coincidence he didn't have a plan in Chicago where he used two extremely different OC's in Gary Crowton and John Shoop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PushthePile Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 Most posters here call Trent Edwards captain checkdown, but they fail to realize that his ability to get rid of the ball to the RB is the reason this Bills team is not the worst rated line in the NFL. The Bills have improved in the middle with the new center and guards, but the tackle position has been horrible because of injuries. The Bills have some "decent' young tackles, but they can't seem to stay healthy. I'd rate this Bills line just as bad as Green Bay's and Washington's because of injuries and the replacements that are not getting the job done. If you doubt this then go back and watch that Saints game again. How many severe concussions have the Redskins and Packers allowed to their QB's the last two years? Trent Edwards has done virtually nothing to help this o-line out. I'm not sure what games your watching but captain checkdown is looking RB even when the protection is good. It's Edwards inability to get the ball anywhere down field that has held this offense back the most. Edwards has managed to get sacked 19 times in 6 games, while Fitzpatrick has been sacked 4 times in 3 games. Imagine what would have happened if Edwards hadn't mastered the one yard desperation checkdown! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 The Bills have improved in the middle with the new center and guards, but the tackle position has been horrible because of injuries. The Bills have some "decent' young tackles, but they can't seem to stay healthy. Hangartner has been an improvement at center, the guards have played very poorly. Yeah, expectations are low, but c'mon they have not been an improvement. It's a bit discouraging seeing your high draft picks not playing well in their first year, but they deserve the benefit of the doubt as rookies and certainly aren't getting any help from the tackle positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 As much as it pains me to say it, YES we do have the worst O-Line in the NFL. Hands down. We may have more potential on line than a few teams, but at this point in time, we are the bottom of the barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 Hangartner has been an improvement at center, the guards have played very poorly. Yeah, expectations are low, but c'mon they have not been an improvement. It's a bit discouraging seeing your high draft picks not playing well in their first year, but they deserve the benefit of the doubt as rookies and certainly aren't getting any help from the tackle positions. According to this http://profootballfocus.com/by_position.ph...&numgames=1 you are right about LG. Dockery was -3.8 while Levitre is a -11.0. At RG, Wood is -5.0 and Butler was a -18.7. At C, we have the worst C in football at -18.9. Hangartner is 45 out of 45 Cs to make a snap this year. Despite that, he is an upgrade over IQ Prestion, who rated a dismal -20.1 last year. Fowler? -14.1. To round out the picture, Peters was a -8.7 and Walker was a horrific -23.7. This year, Tinker Bell is the worst T in the NFL at -24.1 and the other side has been manned by a revolving door but Scott is -10.7 and Chambers is -8. So, we have from left to right last year: -8.7, -3.8, -20.1, -18.7, -23.7. This year: -24.1, -11.0, -18.9, -5, -10.7. So, we are far worse on the left side, a smidgen better at C, and improved on the right side. Ironically, the Bills front office blew up the left side of the offensive line from last year and wanted to push both players on the right side into more difficult positions. Like Belichick said, it takes continued bad decisions to plumb the depths... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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