Sammyboy Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 BillsVet---Can't argue with you there... You're absolutely, 100 % correct... All I'm saying is build from the lines out. If you have a great Oline then your Qb could---and I say could be servicable. And if you're QB is half way proficient----welll then there you go..It starts with the big heavies up front on both sides of the ball...Give me good lines and I'll show you good backs. Give me great lines and I'll show you great backs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 Hangartner has been an improvement at center, the guards have played very poorly. Yeah, expectations are low, but c'mon they have not been an improvement. It's a bit discouraging seeing your high draft picks not playing well in their first year, but they deserve the benefit of the doubt as rookies and certainly aren't getting any help from the tackle positions. Hangartner has sucked, plain and simple. One game he couldn't even get the ball to the QB without it hitting the ground, time and time again. One of the worst Free Agent pickups in a long time here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 According to this http://profootballfocus.com/by_position.ph...&numgames=1 you are right about LG. Dockery was -3.8 while Levitre is a -11.0. At RG, Wood is -5.0 and Butler was a -18.7. At C, we have the worst C in football at -18.9. Hangartner is 45 out of 45, Cs to make a snap this year. Despite that, he is an upgrade over IQ Prestion, who rated a dismal -20.1 last year. Fowler? -14.1. To round out the picture, Peters was a -8.7 and Walker was a horrific -23.7. This year, Tinker Bell is the worst T in the NFL at -24.1 and the other side has been manned by a revolving door but Scott is -10.7 and Chambers is -8. So, we have from left to right last year: -8.7, -3.8, -20.1, -18.7, -23.7. This year: -24.1, -11.0, -18.9, -5, -10.7. So, we are far worse on the left side, a smidgen better at C, and improved on the right side. Ironically, the Bills front office blew up the left side of the offensive line from last year and wanted to push both players on the right side into more difficult positions. Like Belichick said, it takes continued bad decisions to plumb the depths... http://profootballfocus.com/by_position.ph...&numgames=1 20 Trent Edwards BUF 22 Jay Cutler CHI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Fan888 Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 As much as it pains me to say it, YES we do have the worst O-Line in the NFL. Hands down. We may have more potential on line than a few teams, but at this point in time, we are the bottom of the barrel. You can't say that until you watch other teams play. I'm pretty sure Oakland and Washington fans to name a few believe they both have the worst O-line in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 BillsVet---Can't argue with you there... You're absolutely, 100 % correct... All I'm saying is build from the lines out. If you have a great Oline then your Qb could---and I say could be servicable. And if you're QB is half way proficient----welll then there you go..It starts with the big heavies up front on both sides of the ball...Give me good lines and I'll show you good backs. Give me great lines and I'll show you great backs... Tom, there have been numerous posters who talked incessantly about building from the lines out, hence criticism of the 06 draft. Unfortunately, it took the Bills 4 drafts to figure out you can't buy an OL nor have inferior pass rushers besides Schobel. When I look at the rounds 1 and 2 picks from 04-08, I see a lot of skill players and only 1 lineman selected: McCargo who is a bust. It's little wonder the DL and OL have suffered mightily for so many years. And the golden nugget they lucked into was traded for rookies in 2009. I'm hopeful Levitre and Wood will improve, but their tackles are absolutely dreadful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flbillsfan#1 Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 Hangartner has sucked, plain and simple. One game he couldn't even get the ball to the QB without it hitting the ground, time and time again. One of the worst Free Agent pickups in a long time here. Did you watch even one game the Bills played last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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