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I guess if you think about it - we can see this as a potential playoff match up (if we even make it) and most of us are having flashbacks of the last 5 and outs and see that nothing really has changed, has it? The Bills are still relying on Clark Kent to put on his cape, and score primary on scramble drills. Still run a cover 3 defense 70% of time which they no longer have the personnel to play. They trotted out that nickel again from play 1 against 250 pounds of HOF muscle in Henry and got destroyed and it wasn't until after we spotted them 14 that they finally added a real LB into the mix - They have neutered Allen, any ham and egger can throw the wheel routs but think about it, when is the last time he's thrown deep to the post or to the flag? They were stacking 10 men in the box all night long and that offense stayed the move the chains Ryan Tannehill course, teams are simply not afraid of the deep ball anymore and they don;t need to play honest.

Seriously?? Let me Google that for you - Bill Belichick, the NFL head coach: Career wins: Belichick is third all-time in career wins with 302. Super Bowls: Belichick has won six Super Bowls, which is a record. Conference titles: Belichick has won nine conference titles, which is a record. Coaching tree: 17 of Belichick's assistant coaches have become head coaches in the NFL and college. Defensive coordinator: Belichick was the defensive coordinator for the New York Giants when they won Super Bowls in 1987 and 1991... where he beat Marv Levy You can feel the way you feel but it doesn't support the numbers, sorry. All that garbage of AFC titles and best arm strength or whatever you think matters doesn't. It's all about the Lombardi. McD is Andy when he was in Philly, hit a ceiling and it's time to move on.

Really? you're the guy that would be defending Marv Levy, greatest roster ever assembled some would argue, and just could not get it done and let me see if I remember the conversation back them when this board was hosted at one bills drive - if we only had a Parcels or Gibbs or Walsh ... song is starting to sound VERY familiar to me. I have no doubts, with a Belichick, Josh would already have bling and most people are seeing that to. Said it before and saying it again - without 17 the Bills are a sub .500 team at best and would be fighting for the basement still.

and how many Lombardi's does that equal? Just curious

Hurrry up and score so I can go to bed and sleep throught this game like they are.. and somebody say night to night to Allen as MCD turns him into the next Philip Rivers...the greatest player who never was

I don't think he makes the season

and so it begins...

Rigth on - and there it is. Reid is a QB whisperer, has been since Philly. Ask yourself this, if Allen was in KC, how many rings? Probably the same or more, and Mahomes would be in the same predicament as Allen is right now, chasing the dream. Just like that it 1990 again, if the Bills only had a Parcels or Johnson or Gibbs... Sad.

I kind of feel he's more like Frank Reich - not a 16 (17 now) game guy but will get you 2 or 3 wins out of 5

in the 70's - Bradshaw 80's - Sweetness / also like watching Fouts as well 90.s - Sanders, could have been the best of all time on a good team 2000s - Brady all the way, love or hate he is the GOAT.. for now (Bills have a future one, if they can figure it all out)

Welcome to the Bills message board where the fans believe what they are told and the numbers don't matter. Sorry, I don't know what games you were at, but I assure you, "committing to it, in two of the last three years made the Bills almost unbeatable" might not be true, at least in the playoffs: 2020 Lost the Conference Championship against the Kansas City Chiefs (24-38) - BUF Rushing 129 / Passing 234 KC Rushing 114 / Passing / Passing 325 I call this one the no answer game as they had no answer for Hill as he shredded us for 172 yards and Kelce for 118 and every first down, you remember? 3 and 6 lets give them a 12 yard cushion...love da zone LOL 2021 Lost to the Kansas City Chiefs in the Divisional Round in overtime (36-42) - BUF Rushing 109 / Passing 313 KC Rushing 182/ Passing 370 This was by far 17's best game as a pro- you could literally watch him carrying the entire team and coaching staff... I'll give you 13 seconds to think about it 2022 Lost to the Cincinnati Bengals in the Divisional Round (10-27) - BUF Rushing 64/ Passing 261 CIN Rushing 172/ Passing 240 C'mon - you remember this one - Cover 2 Tampa soft zone can't stop the inside run with a 180 pound DB playing MLB as they spotted them 14 points in the first 12 minutes of the game. I'll give you this one, we did out pass them in this one, too bad we were never in it. Burrow owned that zone as 9 different people caught passes 2023 Lost to the Kansas City Chiefs in the Divisional Round (24-27) - BUF Rushing 182/ Passing 186 KC Rushing 146/ Passing 215 The coaching "not to lose" game - and after 5 years, still have no answer for Travis Kelce. A minute and half left to go, 17 flinging it all over the yard, send out the field goal unit... and 17 was responsible for 72 of 182. You keep saying I have an issue w/ the run game, it's literally the defense over and over again. The problem I have with McD is he is the very definition of insanity, do it over and over again and expect a different result. KC had that hole and the went out and got Spagnuolo while we held on to Frasier. I promise you, Reid knows nothing about the defense. Now in Frasier's defense, no one knows how much McD had in calling defenses over the years, but if he was calling the shots, Frasier should have been gone after 13 seconds break down. Now we promote Babich, and as of last Feb24 "Sean McDermott is undecided on Bills' defensive play-caller: 'We'll make that decision when we need to" is all you need to know. I believe McD is a fine head coach - if he would just let the talent around him do their thing. they can build an offense around 17 that can put up 35 a game to make up for defensive philosophy that only works against bad teams. Saying as far as "the leaders on the team getting it" - The only thing they are "getting" is an early tee time every season while getting to watch someone else hoist the Lombardi. Just my take - hopefully, maybe this year it will work ... 5ths times a charm.

Just going back to 2019 and I can go back even farther then that if you like - only one team in the big show had a top 5 run game, THE NUMBER S DON"T LIE - perhaps the talking heads you listen to do? Think about it - how many big contracts are being made for running backs??? None, as they are now throw always that you use up on a rookie deal and trade em. The weakness in Allens game went away because they moved from run run pass punt Dorcey, and be honest, remove Allen and just like Lamar, without these guys, these teams have no run game. Let me say the thing that should be said: Without Josh Allen, the Bills are a sub .500 team that would have got this coaching staff tanked years ago. His natural ability and aptitude for what is happening around him keeps us in games too many times as the Bills are scoring on broken plays or scramble drills. "Only the teams with better than average running games will contend in the AFC this year.... 2019 - #1 - Ravens .. no Lombardi - SB winner Pats, run ranking - 18, passing #9 (4153) 2020 - #1 - Ravens ... no Lombardi - SB winner KC, run ranking - 16, passing #1 (5005) 2021 - #1 - Philly ... no Lombardi - SB winner Bucs, run ranking - 26, passing #1 (5383) 2022 - #1 - Da Bears... no Lombardi - SB winner Rams, run ranking #5, passing #25 (3506) 2023 - #1 - Ravens again... no Lombardi - SB winner KC, run ranking #19. passing #7 (4383) Barring the run by the Rams in 22 - nothing you are saying is supported by numbers but rather an antiquated notion that the NFL is still a run first league. Not even one of those QBS that won it were "system guys" supported by a great running game. It's all about the QB, nothing else matters and here's the real elephant in the room - as long a McD sits in that nickel cover 2 soft Tampa zone nonsense for 80% of the game, you better have a guy that can put up 35 plus points in a game because when they get to the playoffs and play REAL QB's - they eat his lunch... 4 years running now… the very definition of insanity.

Foolish? Still stuck in the 80's I see. 3 1/2 yards and cloud of dust, run it again...lol Let me tell you what the "best running game in football" got for it - a good golf game after the first playoff game exit by the 17th best running game that is KC. This is a passing league and has been for the last 30 years, and the offense they push, any ham and egger can run. Allen is not a "game manager" he is elite and even with the actual numbers, some people just can't face the truth. The sad part is, it will waste another 3 years from Allen shelf life before it is admitted. Number's don't lie my friend, and at the end of the day, you don't drive a Lamborghini in the snow... unless you are McD Sorry.

Right on Logic - This is draft literally defines "sustainability", that's what's important to Bean. He will never mortgage the farm at a Superbowl run and we will are ending up with the next Philip Rivers. Starting to feel like I did back in the 90's, the more things change the more they stay the same, just like back in those days, if the Bills had a Parcels or Johnson or Gibbs, how many Lombardi's are at One Bills drive? If you find yourself saying right now, with all the talent on the field, if we had a Belichick or Reid.... that will probably answer your questions about how to feel about McD. His coaching is defense, he wants to win like that combining with a ground and pound run game circa 1989. Problem is, he has one of the greatest at the wheel, and the only time we really get to see that, and if you think about, you know it's true, is when none of that working. Then we release the hounds and que up sugar rush Allen for the win. Just a note - the QB makes the receiver great, just look at Hill w/ Tua as opposed to Mahomes - or Walker with Brady and so on. Losing DIggs, whose production became #2 at best last 8 games and disappearing every year in the playoffs got old. I think, at the very least, with all the drops last year, maybe they are just looking for guys to just catch the ball? and for all those peeps that judge receivers on how fast hey run I'll leave this: " I'm always fastest guy on the field, because I know where I'm going" ...Jerry RIce

They continue to beat you in the field because the best you off it as well

Me and the wife cruise a few times a year - you can't believe how many Bills fans there are, just need to throw on the Bills attire and we come out of the woodwork. Watched the last 2 drafts on the Mardi Gras, 31 other team fans huddled in a bar ridiculing each other - best time ever... in retrospect Jets and Cowgiirl fans take the brunt of it and rightly so...

Just my 2 cents - people make mistakes, what was intersesing was the lack knowlegde on the rules. I don't normally yell at my television but man, not knowing to have them defensivly hold and take the 5 running off 5 and icing the game? Concerning - I used to think McD coudl get it done but now I am not so sure, Might be a perfect storm this year IF the NFL is fixed and we get the calls, might be a chance, considering they have a new stadium with PSL's to sell... Remember it is a business first and game second - fingers crosssed. 😁

This is literally the smartest thing anyone has said yet - right on brother. Everyone talking about "not a big deal" - this guy can flip the field but of course be content with 37 yarders in a playoff game. The real truth is the Bills jumped the gun when the allegations came out, and he has no interest, especially when he can go to KC get a ring. If the Bills were so high and morality mighty, Von would have been gone the day after too, just like this kid, but the morality clause in his contract voided the $$ and his girl figured out real quick half of zero is zero... and recanted. Need to start looking at the Bills without the homer glasses - they are built for "sustainability", Beane said so himself - sustainability is the word he has used over and over. A championship is not first priority, never was, or they would have sold the farm 2 years ago to do it – A winning record and filling seats, is just enough to keep interest and if a championship should happen then. all the better, but don’t believe for a second, it's about a championship. The end of the day, we are out coached, out gunned and out rostered and the ONLY thing that keeps us in the W is 17 - without which, McD is a .500 coach at best. Sorry - from an OG here and I don't post much but the more things chang, the more they stay the same - it literally is a rehash of the Kelly years

Here's one - Terry Pegula split up One Sports becasue he is preparing to sell the Bills...

because we are.... tampa 2 soft zone nonsense - as usual, he will die on this hill

BIG DAWGGG!!!!

They play scared becuase they know their QB is one hit or concussion away from being retired from the game. Even if not, I agree with completely, Tua is not the guy

We are losing this game because we can't have 1 game this year where the head coach feels he needs to spot a team 7 point because he refuses to get out of that tampa 2 soft zone crap zone nickel and the OC won't run the ball...

Typical - playing not to lose

Run.The.Bll...