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I said "possibly" LOL

Best QB possibly ever relegated into a game manager... unreal

This is an odd take, saying T2 made it to the playoffs while waiting for the Bengals to hopefully win that night to get us in, and playing a last place schedule to boot, he gets a pass? Regular season wins mean jack, nobody will remember that - it's championships that matter. I've been on this train for the last 3 years about McD, take away 17 and the Bills are mediocre at best - forever in purgatory. They are not setup to win a championship, they are set up for "sustainability" - stay in the mix, hopefully make it through and most importantly, keep the seats filled and the merch flowing. ALOT of people here forget it's a business first and a game second. Be honest and think about it, in 7 years has Bean gone "all in"?? -think about it. He brings in just enough talent to keep up that pace, guys at the end of their career or used up, or middle of the road talent. We all know the Bills need a stud to stretch the field deep but "everybody eats" right? ridiculous (see last game where even with a lost step Diggs roasted us) and we need either another pass rushing stud or a shut down corner without that. So lets just prove this out, Parsons was available, complete game changer, but we can't give up that 1st round pick (even though most likely it is 29/30), so gonna just draft a guy and "hope" he's as good as Parsons? Some teams treat draft pick like they are gold. Teams that are making a run will never do that, they go all in. Now the trade window will come and go and no matter what happens during the rest of the season, we will get into the playoffs, maybe we even win one - but no way is there enough talent on the field or in the booth to bring it home, but ya never know, 6th times a charm right?

I rarely speak up as always love your takes. I think, unless MCD gets a handle on this defense, we are headed for our 5th one and done in the playoffs when things get real. At some point, 17 won't be able to put on the cape and bail out that coaching staff (see last 5 playoff games). I am getting 1991 vibes again - so much talent, terrible coaching. Give me a Parcels or Gibbs back then and I'm pretty sure some of those Lombardi's hit home. Now saying that, anyone who thinks you are going to blow out any NFL team on any given Sunday is crazy. They won by double digits and that's impressive against any NFL team but lets be real, the Bills sit in that base nickel (I think the number I saw was 57-60% of the time) with 2 undersized LB's at the point of attack, along with a 280 pound NT in Oliver, and rush 4 so they get gouged on the ground- a lot. Quiet frankly, I don't know why teams pass at all as it took that coaching staff in the Bal game until the 4th quarter to move into 4-3 with some beef and even yesterday, 3rd quarter until they added Williams and lets be honest here, Hamlin wouldn't start on a practice squad and Tre is not the Tre we all remember, he has been getting cooked religiously, which is why they sat him for the Strong yesterday. What's the saying? Offensive wins games but defense wins championships? We might have to admit we have become the definition of insanity, same thing every year and expect a different result. I think there are no excuses this year, the stars have aliened - league MVP, easiest schedule in the NFL, ton of talent and an offense that is avg 30 points or more a game, with ease mind you. Some questions I ask now - Does 17 have a long enough cape this year that when they score 50 will he score 51? When is enough is enough for him? Is Allen the next Philip Rivers? best that never was? Is this a 6-12 team without 17? Can we get more then 2 games from Milano without injury? Is it players on defense or scheme? Both? When do the Bills go "all in"? - that, THAT right there is the biggest question and has been for the last 3 years for me. Would the Bills getting to the big game with a Belichick or a Reid? Say what you want about Brady (he is the GOAT) but there were a few of those rings because of that Pats defense if I recall. I hope this is THE year, but from what I saw last night with the Chiefs, I have doubts that it will be any different and I assure everybody here, if we end up playing the Ravens in the playoffs, they will not make the same mistake twice and they will pound Henry until his legs fall off.. I know I would

What the heck? They didnt even TRY?? runout the clock???

Maybe this is a win - Cam Lewis got cooked in the slot and also consider, a safety role? Hamlin needed to be released last year. He brings some, needed exp w/ McD's defense. Not like we broke the bank.

Reid is schooling McD ... again

Looks like we gonna spot the Chiefs the McD 14 before we figure it out

I didn't say it wasn't, doesn't matter HOW you hit the gas, conservaball did not work the last time and 17 flung he rock 39 times in that game. The TOP was crazy lopsided, Cheifs had 22 min and the Bills 37 and they still equaled us in yards gained. Here is the difference between the Chiefs and the Ravens, by the time you adjust, game is over, they rarely make dumb mistakes and play sound fundamental football, like the Bills. Do whatever it takes, run it pass it - and most importantly and I say this it seems every playoffs game- SHUT DOWN KELCE

Ya - that won't work against KC. You hit the gas hard and don't let up, even if you are 4 scores ahead until the victory formation inside of 2 minutes.

tick tock

He rode that nickel all tyhe way into the end zone

Beginning of the end folks - McD can't help himself

That was a heads up play for sure

Agrred- died a little myself. 25 should have never come down to a FG anyways. I was no fan of Levy either, terrible coach but kept all those egos in check I guess but I have no doubt, with a Parcels or a JJ we had pulled a few of those home and I feel we are in that spot now.

Really?? So in EVERY playoff loss - when did 17 leave it on the field, with the lead mind you, and the D take care of busines? I'll give you 13 seconds to think about it. You can nit pick what I'm sayign all you want but doesn't change the fact that no Lombardi's are at OBD and I'm pretty sure whe you your O is averaging 32 ppoint s a game, your qb has 6 TD's, you win games - unless you are the Bills. What's that term "Billsey"? I ASSURE you, nobody from the 90's / gen X is saying that. Until you live through that heartbreak, you have no idea what you are saying - sorry.

Funny ... can't remember Purdy showing off his ring but that's none of my busines, Hey, if "good enough" every year is you bar, have at it -all good.

Not arguing that, just saying, in my original premise, the scheme is sound, just not 80% of the game. it's unrealistic and run it's course- no different then the no huddle. Offense wins games, defense wins championships - not regular season or games against bad teams. Until that defense does that - it's bull you know what.

My bad, should of saif Lombardi;s. Let's just hroww King Henry in to the mix this year and see what happens. KC isn't just doing it with the O - their defense is pretty solid as well.

6-8??? yep - that would be the BIlls record to without 17 Can't believe you guys are defending this scheme - unreal. Don't worry, in the payoffs this year I'm sure 5th's time a charm.

Distributive property IF it was just one game. Tell you what, name one game in the payoffs we got the dub in that that defense won for us ... we'll wait

Anybody that sits in a nickel zone for 80% of a game is going to get burned every year by decent qb's - sorry. that's just lazy coaching/planning. Doesn't matter the players, the scheme is not bad but it is not meant to be used all the time. If it were me, I'd jumbo up, run the ball and send guys into the seams all day long, McVay gave out that blueprint btw as they amassed 427 yards but barley broke 300 against the 49ers. All I'm saying is this - after we spot the usual 10-14 points to Detroit like we do everybody else, and watch the usually 1st and nothing up the middle a few times from the O combined with the screen out to Samuel for -1 yard, I'm pretty sure 17 will be putting on the cape before half time... hope I am wrong

and there you go - whaty have they done? tthe same as the guy here with the futire HOF QB - nothing.

If we play Jackson in the playoffs, King Henry will absolutely shred that nickel.. again. Jackson is the least of our worries. As for Steeltown, they are running the ball very effectively as well, with a future HOF QB and a nasty defense - this is not last years Steelers. and as for any other coach without a great QB - Nix Purdy? No excuse - you have this generations goat, too many passes - sorry.

You guys are crazy and so is anybody who thinks Belichick isn't an instant upgrade. The last time someone gave him a great QB, he brought home 6 Lombardi's and stop fooling yourselves if you think it was all TB!2, go take a look at the defensive rankings for his SB runs, then talk the smack. I say it again and again - numbers don't lie. We will get hammered this week by Detroit but don't worry, we look like world beaters for the rest of the garbage games left and people will start talking how good the Bills are. When we get in the playoffs again against Mahomes, Wilson, Jackson, Herbert - see what Stafford did last week? Going to see it again because that coach is gonna die on that hill and so is 17's career if he doesn't get into the owners ear at some point. (Philip Rivers? Dam Marino? Jim Kelly?) Next year Allen will be 29 and has nothing but early exits and nonsense to show for it. Division titles are garbage, you need the ring, period. I can't believe how many homers defend McD like he has accomplished anything other then draft the guy that has been the only thing literally saving his job so far. Seriously, what is the Bills record without Allen?? How many passes does this guy get? I swear to God, it's like when the message board was at OBD and listening to everyone defend Levy like he was the next coming after JJ embarrassed him -twice.... the more things change Sorry for the rant - just frustrated