Big Turk

Actually should have 4....2 drops by "Stonehands" Samuel, a phantom illegal contact penalty erased one and offsetting penalties erased another. Allen is what you would get if the best scientists in the world all got together and built the perfect QB in a lab and then went through like 4 or 5 prototypes before getting to the finished product.

Herbert is not elusive in the same way Allen is...his straight line speed might be similar, but he isn't going to make you miss or look silly in the open field the way Allen is or escape from the pocket when a defender is closing in by making him do an 'Ole! Or take on the defender and run him over or stiff arm him into oblivion. Mahomes has some of the elusiveness like Allen does, he just doesn't have the power component Allen does. Even when he is running out of the pocket, he isn't a threat to run for 20 yards unless there is nobody out in front of him.

I've heard of some random place that rents out a kitchen in like a church?? somewhere in like Kenmore that is supposedly amazing but I have never been there...anyone know what I am talking about? Duff's was super disappointing the last time we went a few weeks ago...had some of my wife's family in from out of town and they wanted to get wings...went to Bar Bill North and he wait was ridiculous...like over an hour, so we ended up going to Duff's...hadn't been there in a few years and the last time we went the wings were giant and good. This time they were small like you get everywhere else you go in the country except Buffalo normally...was so disappointed. Thought someone shipped them the wrong size or something. Still were good just way less than what you'd normally get size wise. Or maybe this is the new norm?

LMAO!!! Harvey: "Finish this phrase: Leave it ____" Diggs: "Leave it in" Harvey: "Your boys looking at you over there like 'That's his problem!'" 🤣🤣🤣

Except Mahomes seems to have INTs dropped like magic when he throws balls directly to DBs. "Stonehands" Samuel dropped two wide open INTs on balls thrown right to him last night. Mahomes tied for NFL lead with Ryan in 2020 with 19 dropped INT's, had an "off" year with 10 last year and is picking up where he left off this year. Meanwhile Allen is having DB's making diving INTs and toe tap INTs on the sidelines falling out of bounds, SMFH

JC Jackson is also way over hyped. Dude gets smoked by good WRs and feasts on average ones. Diggs destroys him and he looked bad last night again.

Mahomes has some of the best interception luck you can get...got bailed out with 19 dropped INTs in 2020, tied with Matt Ryan for NFL lead...last year only had 10...starting out strong again this year... Had 4 INTs either dropped or negated by penalties last night, one a phantom illegal contact call and the other offsetting penalties. Then two drops by "Stonehands" Samuel https://www.yahoo.com/sports/patrick-mahomes-gets-bailed-four-023442777.html

In a must win game there is nobody I am taking over Allen. He plays his best when the stakes are highest.

Ehh...wrong side of the field...the Tuel one was literally almost the same play 2 yards deeper. https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/chiefs-return-interception-for-101-yard-touchdown-gif/9g7r9s2pa7yi1h5qmhvukxnob

I cannot believe how many easy INTs opponents drop against Mahomes...Samuel had the ball hit him right in the hands with nobody around him and he fights the ball to the ground and then it gets overturned. Happened a ton last year too.

That Herbert pick reminded of the Jeff Tuel INT against KC returned 99 yards for a TD...

Mahomes has more easily dropped INTs than any QB I have ever seen. I mean he throws the ball directly to Samuel with no Chiefs around and two other Chargers and he ends up not catching it cleanly and has to dice for it and it gets overturned on replay review... Then Mahomes throws a TD. Should have been an INT and then turns into a TD later... Had a ton of them last year as well. Yeah he said it was so.much harder than anyone they have ever seen they double and triple checked the radar gun because they figured it had to be broken because that reading had to be wrong...

Allen is much more elusive than Herbert is when he has the ball and is running. If you watched Allen run the 40, it was clear he could easily gain at least 0.2 seconds on his time simply by starting properly...he had one of the worst starts to a 40 yard dash I have ever seen. Herbert has the ability to move but definitely isn't fluid like Allen is and doesn't have the ability to make defenders look silly the same way either by making them miss.

Allen can do things the other two cannot. Neither of them can do things that Allen cannot.

Chargers always play the Chiefs tough, especially in Arrowhead where they won both games Herbert has played there. The other two went to OT, including one where Herbert didn't touch the ball and the other was his first NFL start when he learned he was playing like 30 mins prior to the game when Taylor has his lung punctured.

Herschel Walker to Vikings Ricky Williams to NO for their entire draft class Jerry Hughes to the Bills for Kelvin Sheppard At least Adams was a stud before he got hurt...

Definitely channeling his inner JP Losman at press conferences...I was waiting for a Yoda reference.

Not according to some posters apparently.

Some of them...he goes OOB without being touched, into the endzone without being touched or slides(yeah he has done it) at times also. Yes he has...he missed a few games when he got hit *IN THE POCKET* by a defender while throwing the ball and hurt his forearm his rookie year. Allen missed 4 games in which Derek Anderson, Nathan Peterman and Matt Barkley started. Barkley famously started the Jets game a few days after being signed and lit them up. The next week Allen returned against Jacksonville which is where he threw that 75 yard TD to Foster while getting hit by two defenders and was called "trash" by Jalen Ramsey prior to the game.

I'd say it is more based on the number of bodies around the QB in the pocket he can get his leg pinned under, him getting blindsided by a defender on a blitz or by cleanly beating a tackle, QB's hitting their hands on helmets while throwing, multiple defenders hitting him at the same time that are usually D linemen, and defenders landing on top of them in a way that pins their arm under them causing shoulder issues. None of those are common issues with a QB running in the open field and he is getting hit more by LB's and DB's than defensive linemen.

More like "Players you don't remember" of the game.

Why do people make the assumption him getting hit while running is somehow worse than a QB like Burrow who gets sacked in the pocket frequently? I believe the injury data shows the majority of QB injuries come from hits in the pocket rather than on scrambles or runs. Allen was the 2nd least sacked QB last year next to Brady for QB's that played in 15+ games. The funny thing is the only time Josh has had a significant injury in his career where he missed games, it came from in the pocket.

I am not sure watching the Patriot game last week if I have ever seen a player put up decent numbers in a game but be less impressed than I was with Tua. I mean literally there was nothing he did that was really impressive. Maybe the throw to Waddle for the TD on 4th down but Waddle did all the work. The offense scored 13 points and he made a number of mind numbing decisions in the game and bad throws that luckily didn't cost them. If they are impressed with him, they are simply very easily impressed.

So I ran some numbers from stat muse which has punting stats from 1946. In the Buffalo Bills NFL history(starting with the 1970 season), they have had 7 regular season games with no punts out of 811 NFL regular season games. 4 of them have occurred since 2020. The last time prior to Allen the Bills didn't punt was the famous 1992 "No Punt" game against San Fran where neither team punted, then prior to that in 1990 against the Colts. Only other time was in 1974 against the Patriots in a game they won 29-28. As good as the Kelly led Bills were offensively, they only accomplished this feat twice. Since 1946, there have been 27,608 regular season "team games" played(ie, 1 game = 2 "team games"). 149 teams have not punted in a game during that time, equating to a 0.5% chance that a team will not punt during a game. So for a 17 game season with 32 teams, equating to 544 "team" games, there should be 2.72 times during an entire season that a team doesn't punt in a game. The Bills nearly did this by themselves, not punting in 2 games. Since 2020, the Bills have not punted in a regular season game at an astonishing 11.8% pace(4 times in a 34 game span). According to the historical NFL average since 1946, it should have required 800 games for the Bills not to have punted in 4 games. In other words, the Bills are not punting at a pace 23.6 times the historical average in NFL history. This is mind boggling! Add in another one in the playoffs against NE and it becomes 5 times in 35 games and 4 within the last 6, which is almost unfathomable.

And here is a preview of it... Lay's commercial with a reference to the coin toss... https://billswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/15/josh-allen-commercial-lays-coin-toss/