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Wow, what a story!! That's very impressive. And very impressive that you know about it.

You are a real Josh Allen apologist. Maybe the biggest on this board. Use the eye test Cincy. He has played like ***** of late. He of course is an NFL QB. He is going to make some decent throws every game. The throw to Shakir down the left sideline on our second TD drive. The 30+ yarder to Gabe. The first pick was Gabe's fault. But the problem is he is turning the ball over way too much. He is being paid big money to a big timer. If we want turnovers and TD's, we can bring in Jameis Winston. At least Jameis is not a head case. Just like Fitzie. They will keep letting it rip. Do I dare say Josh seems like a sensitive guy. He probably did not like Diggs calling him out last year in the Cinci playoff game. I am surprised that Josh even pays any attention to McDermott. If I were him, I would just ignore him. And play the way I wanted to. Do you think Brett Favre gave a ***** what Mike Holmgren or Mike Sherman said to him? He was the team. He knew it and all his teammates knew it. Josh Allen will be here long after Clappy gets shown the door. Which will likely be at the end of the season. He just needs to bare down and make plays and not overthink things. I have noticed that he barely throws over the middle of the field anymore. Way too much sideline stuff. Get Kincaid Diggs and/or Shakir running down the seam. Lots of room there. Especially with play action. He is a big boy making a lot of money. Time to step up, stop pouting and act the part of a champion. The league stops for nobody. I never saw Jim Kelly pouting. If he was upset he took it out on his teammates or the opposing team. McDermott is no football guru. We need to win despite this guy until he is no more.

Excuse my ignorance. But who is Earnest Shackleton?

Great relationships don't always lead to great results. A certain friction/tension between higher ups gets more out of people. Great relationships lead to complacency. And that is what has happened with our organization. Good is good enough. It doesn't have to be great. If the Bills were shooting for greatness they would have gotten rid of Frazier at the least after 13 seconds. McDermott is not an innovator. He thinks smaller is better on defense. I have news for him playing DB's continuously at LB gets you run over, and your defense out of gas every week at the ends of games like last night, and in the Giants Bucs Pats and Bengals games. If I am Beane I am distancing myself fast from McDermott.

That is the best response I have read in this thread. Everyone is happy that Dorsey was canned. But he was not making the throws. Josh Allen is. And he looks lost and indifferent about the entire mess. That throw to the sideline at the end of the 1st half was ridiculously bad that was picked. He missed Shakir who was wide open on 4th and 2. He threw the same bad throw to Gabe on the sideline in the 2nd half. And he should have been picked on the second or third series of the game if Singleton gets his foot down. This is not the Josh Allen of the past 4 seasons. The guy looks like a robot. The big boy needs to get it together. I don't see Mahomes or Burrow or a lot of supposed other real good NFL QB's playing like that for extended periods of time. Some new blood leading the offense is fine. But the overall pale over the team is on McDermott. Something happened on that London trip that really has sunk the offense. We looked awful in the 1st half after playing a great game against Miami. It has been a mess ever since. McDermott should be coaching for his life at this point. This week against the Jets will not be easy for our offense. Their defense is nasty. We need to come out playing with some bad intentions. Because it will be a street fight. And if we don't it will not end pretty for us.

Defense was awful in the 4th qtr. Let the Broncos move up and down the field. We can't stop the short pass in the flats. Watch the Broncos second TD. Their RB walked into the end zone. Bernard played well. But noone on the outside can tackle other then Douglas.

I think #17 has looked pretty bad as well. Our WR's other then Diggs and maybe Shakir suck. We have no big time speed on the outside like most teams do. And we are rolling with the oldest RB in the league as our #2 guy. Then look at the defense. Lots of injuries. But can't stop anyone in crunch time week after week. Year after year. And we put a 5'8 inch corner on the Broncos best receiver on the play of the game. And the icing on the cake was the 12 men last night on the final FG. How is that Dorsey's fault? McDermott should have been fired also today. That shouldn't happen in HS football. Let alone the NFL. Sure we have seen some major regression in Josh. If it was because of Dorsey not coaching him up during OTA's, training camp, and during daily practices. Then yes he should be fired. But the problem with the team goes way beyond offensive play calling.

Johnson is a liability in coverage every game. Need guys taller than 5’8 on your secondary. His technique is terrible. When Benford is healthy, it should be him Jackson and Douglas on the field. Johnson is toast every game. I don’t mind blitzing if your secondary all play w good technique. Johnson doesn’t.

Josh looks pretty bad right now. Russell outplayed him tonite. He is making terrible reads and missing open receivers all over the field. This is not the same QB from 2019-2022. You are kidding yourself if you think otherwise. 4 turnovers by the offense at home is disgusting. But the D folded late. And leaving T Johnson one on one w the Broncos best WR on the PI was terrible. And then the 12 men at the end felt like we were in the twilight zone. Would any NFL team really allow that to happen??!! This team is done. A big train wreck of a season. McDermott looks helpless. And so does Josh leading the offense. And the funny thing is we ran the hell out of the ball tonite. Especially when we let Cook out of jail. Do I dare say that Josh is starting to look like Carson Wentz. Someone better get that boys head on straight before he really goes down the rabbit hole to shitville This coaching staff can’t do it and is a cancer that has spread throughout the team. They need to go.

I agree on both. Was only thinking the AFC in my earlier post. I was in Detroit this weekend for the Metallica shows. 🤘🤘And the town is all fired up about the Lions. As they should be.

That would be great if Bates has the talent to be a good starting center in the NFL. But if he can’t even start for us now, not sure that will happen. A young guy that is a stud that could come in and man the pivot would be a godsend for the offense.

So do we draft a Center in the top 3 rounds next year? We haven’t drafted a true Center since Eric Wood back in what 2008. Morse is not dominating in the middle anymore.

Nice post LA. You always see things for what they are. The game has passed McDermott by. Our offense has lost a lot of its juice. The coaching is certainly not cutting edge. And has not gotten nearly the best out of Josh Allen. The Giants Patriots and Jaguars’ games were unacceptable. We were ill prepared against all 3 teams. And almost gave away the Bucs game w conservative coaching at the end. Heck we were not prepared on offense to play the Jets opening week. We had our window from 2020-2022. That window is closing fast. Need some new blood around the team and Josh Allen. An aggressive offensive minded coach who coaches w passion. When teams like the Texans are playing better then us, things have to change.

What does this have to do w the offense? Every team has injuries. We almost lost to Tampa and the Giants. The defense played well in those games. The offense has been stuck in neutral the past 5 games. If we can put up 35 plus pts every week, injuries on Defense are not going to matter.

Good points as always SC. One thing which I believe is hurting the defense is the play of Poyer and Hyde. They just don’t have the speed and quickness to cover anyone anymore. Poyer got beat badly on the Bengals 1st TD. And Hyde has been getting beat all year. Sure they can still support the run coming downhill and our smart. But this isn’t 1992 when safety’s could just pummel receivers. Everyone in the secondary has to be able to cover receivers. And I believe we are limited w those two back there. What teams are playing 2 starting safety’s well into their 30’s? It just doesn’t happen in today’s game. Combine those 2’s age and how small Taron Johnson is and the back end is becoming a weakness. I like Douglass and Joseph. But we need an infusion of young talented athletic players on defense.

I thought it was the Bears. And I am sure he is glad he chose the Bills over the Bears.

Hyde and Poyer are slow and beat up. They play hard but neither can cover anymore. We need to find some young safeties that can play. No team has 2 starting safeties that are 33 years old. That is part of our problem. We need young talent. Is Bates good enough to be a starting NFL center and anchor a good NFL O line is the big question ?

Watch the Colts-Jags game week 17 of the 2021 season. And his play w Washington last year. That should tell you why. It wasn't pretty. Wentz does have a live arm. He just doesn't read the field very well.

I like the pressure calls. The problem seems to be that our defenders can't get to the QB. And if our front 4 could get constant pressure, we would not have to blitz, and could cover more of the field. The Jets and Chargers sure did not have any problems getting to Herbert and Wilson last night. Losing Milano has really handcuffed us. He can blitz, stop the run and cover the pass as well as any LB in the game. And also if the Bills offense was playing at full throttle the entire game. And moving the ball and scoring more, the Bengals would have had to have played more aggressively on offense, and we likely get at least one or two turnovers. They knew our offense was stagnant against their D for much of the game. And decided to play it a bit more safe and conservative.

I meant Oliver is somewhat better, but NOT nearly at the level of Kyle Williams and Marcel Darius (before his big contract)

The immediate future of the team (and this season) is two home games against Denver and the Jets that originally looked like easy victories. Neither are going to be easy now. (That we almost lost to the hapless Giants. And lost to the equally hapless Patriots is a real bad look for the entire organization. And what this team is currently made of.) The team is spiraling downward and has been struggling since London. Its the coach's job to keep the team believing they can win. To put them in position to win with a good game plan. And to keep playing hard every week. I am very interested in how the team comes out next Monday nite. We should beat the Broncos by at least 14-17 pts at home. But that doesn't mean we will. I think we will know in the next two weeks if McDermott has lost the team or not. If the team misses the playoffs and ends up with a losing record or close to it, McDermott has to go.

Real good post Utah John. Our talent level relative to the rest of the league is nothing special. 3 premium players does not get you to Super Bowls. Or even close for that matter. I would argue that Kincaid will become a premium player. (But have no idea why we invested so much money in Dawson Knox who athletically is easily in the bottom half of starting TE's in the league) And I think Shakir can become a very good player if used properly. I would put Cook in the good to very good level as well. But decent RB's can be found at the local discount store. Overall the talent is lacking. And that is on Beane. But I would add that McDermott and his staff in no way coaches up players to get the most out of their talent. It seems to be an entire organization fail at this point. Any chance your boy Kyle Whittingham wants to leave Utah and become the Bills head coach? I think his vibe would work wonders for us. Bring in a good OC with him, and we will be top dog within two years.

Great post RG. I could not agree with you more. Neither of them are high motor consistent difference makers. Oliver is somewhat better, but nearly at the level of Kyle Williams and Marcel Darius (before his big contract). Milano is the only top D player on our roster. D Jones was having a great year. And Tre was a top player before his injuries. As was Poyer and Hyde before age and injuries took their toll. At this point with our injuries, we don't have a lot of top end talent on the defense. Holding the Bengals to 24 pts was a dam solid performance IMO. (Benford and Bernard have a lot of potential. And Jackson and Johnson always play hard. But one is athletically limited. And the other is too short.) Did you watch the Jets-Chargers last night? Those are two bad ass defenses. Constant pressure by both D lines on the QB's all night. And lots of aggressive coverage and hitting on every play. Both of those defenses are light years ahead of us talent wise. And that should not be. But it is.

Your user name is great bro. But not sure what you mean about Google. I have followed Crosby's entire career. The guy is a hell of a player who has fought through a lot of demons. If Rousseau becomes half the player Crosby is, and our defense played with Crosby's intensity and enthusiasm, we would all be a lot happier today.

Josh Allen is the Bills. He isn’t going anywhere nor should he. Getting rid of him is crazy talk. He is a generational talent. The head coach is not though. Nothing special in the slightest about him. This season is on the brink. We can rise and put together a great second half of the season, and look like the team we all hoped and thought we would be after beating Miami week 4. Or we can act like a beaten bunch of ***** that have quit and look rudderless with no leadership. McDermott and the rest of the coaches future w the team should hinge on that.