Mr_Blizzard

He's kinda small . . .

I think that Indy trades the pick away for a high 1st and 2nd in this draft, possibly a player or another pick this year, and definitely a 1st and ?? in 2013. I don't think they move down more than half a dozen picks, unless they subsequently trade THAT 1st round pick for another team's 1st and ?? picks. Indy could essentially rebuild the Colts this year if they play their cards correctly. They were fortunate that Luck waited till this year to come out.

Biggest Surprise - The defense gave up more points this year than last year Biggest Disappoinment - Losing 8 of last 9 games Looking forward too - A defense that can get the opponent off the field when necessary

No reports of an eclipse at Gillette field, so apparently not

I wonder if that will carry over to quarterback evaluation . . .

Wow so cynical Sheesh - I was away from comp / radio for 3 hours and there's big news outta OBD.

And with the 10th pick in the 2012 draft, the Buffalo Bills select: How about a quick look at our notable "busts" over the past decade. I left off the guys who actually made some contribution to the team. Some may argue there should be more guys on the list; I just included the notable failures. Hopefully Leodis can perform well enough next season to be removed from this list. Erik Flowers (26) 2 Seasons, 4 sacks, 14 tackles Mike Williams (4) This one REALLY hurt; how do you screw up a top-5 pick?? J.P. Losman (22 - trade) John McCargo (26 - trade) 5 Seasons, 2.5 sacks, 32 tackles - F A I L - Leodis McKelvin (11) 4 Seasons, 0 sacks, 118 tackles (pass), 5 INTs (yawn), 25 PD. - Aaron Maybin (11) 2 Season, 0 sacks, 15 tackles - F A I L - My point is: whether we draft 4th or 26th, this team has a history of peeing all over itself when it comes time to select its first round picks. Buddy - Please knock it out of the park in April? Please??

Hmmmm . . . I thought this thread would spark more conversation. The Bills haven't given up this many points in a season since 1985. What does that say sbout our defense? Sure there were a few INTs returned for TDs, but generally speaking, this defense could not keep the opposition out of the endzone. If it wasn't for the offense showing some life this year, we would have been in the "Suck for Luck" sweepstakes

Hi San Jose I'm inclined to agree; the defensive coaching sucks. We should have kept Perry Fewell. As far as the avatar - yes that's Jaclyn Smith - one of the hottest women ever! (in my opinion). She still looks good in her 60's.

The Bills gave up 434 points over 16 games this season. That's actually WORSE than last season. There were only 3 games that the Bills allowed less than 23 points; one being the shutout of the Redskins back in October. If this team is going to have a winning record next year, it has to find a way to get the defense at least back to the middle of the pack. Aside from building through the draft, I'm ok with us signing another Nick Barnett if there is one out there . . .

I think we need to explore our options at QB. The Bills defense is the unit that needs the most help, but Fitz is also a problem.

Still rebuilding

Updated 2012 Draft Order 1) Colts 2) Rams 3) Vikes 4) Browns 5) Bucs 6) Skins 7) Jags 8) Panthers/Miami - coin flip 9) Panthers/Miami - coin flip 10) Bills 11) Chiefs/Seahawks - coin flip 12) Chiefs/Seahawks - coin flip 13) Cardinals 14) Cowpokes 15) Eagles 16) Jets 17) Bengals (through a trade) 18) Chargers 19) Bears 20) Titans 21 - 32) The rest

Are either of them out of college yet??

I'm sure it was a platonic relationship . . .

And just a general comment: I thought that Scott Chandler (TE) had a decent season; probably the best TE we've had since Jay Riemersma.

I think it's a safe bet that Brandon Coutu (K) is not retained for next season.

I've gotta side with Brady. The poor guy could have broken a fingernail!

Yeah - Officially PO'ed threads! Bahahahahaaaaa

1) Colts 2) Rams 3) Vikings 4) Browns or Bucs Bills will pick no later than 11th. Currently looks like they will pick 9th. If you can wait 2 more hours, all questions will be answered . . .

Only two other teams gave up more points than the Bills this season. If anyone thinks that we don't need A LOT more TALENT (and better COACHING) on defense, they need to look at our stats. Even during the winning streak, we were giving up a lot of points. There were only THREE GAMES this season that we gave up less than 23 points! We still need some serious retooling on the front seven, and an upgrade at CB wouldn't hurt either. Hopefully Kyle Williams comes back 100% but there needs to be enough depth on the team to overcome the loss of a good player. The current Bills roster doesn't have it..

Not gonna see much of me on this board until after the Superbowl. I am speechless right now. Adios

This post is so true. I have never figured out why The Bills have had love-affairs with some guys who are just plain average, yet they sign them to long-term contracts. After the signing, they continue to be average.