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This is why I plan on never getting old....

I second this -- the view from a helicoptor is amazing. Our pilot took us to some secluded waterfalls and stuff, it was great. Plus, they have a camera on the helicoptor and let you buy a video of the trip when you're done. CW

Are your plants obese, or were you feeding them healthy food?

I've never heard of WhiteFlash (I'll have to check it out), but I can highly recommend Bluenile.com as well -- got a great deal on my wife's engagement ring, and their customer service was top notch. I ordered from them when they were much smaller, and I would ask for 5-6 diamond certificates a day to see what the GIA ratings were. They'd scan them in and mail them to me every day, as well as answer questions on the phone for me. Highly recommended. Local jewelers are ripoffs. CW

Their individual anecdotal evidence from life experiences is obviously much more important.

You people who ignore all of the other factors involved need to open your eyes.

Did you completely forget that you said you spent 2 hours making a healthy meal....? http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/index.php?...t&p=1513500

If it makes you feel any better, we're not really talking about plastic anymore

No, you're dumb. It's obviously easy. It's just that over 60% of people in this country are lazy. Come on, Chef and Ramius said so! They don't care about real scientific studies or to talk to anyone who has lived through it. They're smarter than you and I and know that it's very easy to do. Just spend 2 hours preparing dinner and eat at 9pm! Problem solved!!!

Yeah, because why would we beleive scientific evidence?

So I wake up at 5:30am... Get to work by 7am. Get home at 6:30pm. And you want me to spend 2 hours cooking a meal so that I don't eat until 8:30pm...? Yes, I realize you said you ate the leftovers on Monday and Tuesday. But what about Wednesday? Time to prepare was one of the points you just dismissed out of hand earlier in the thread. I don't understand the clueless people in this thread who simply blame the individual, instead of the indivudal AND all of the other factors involved. Even when presented with studies proving all of the different reasons, they still dismiss them all. But apparently according to many people in this thread, the real reason is that 63% of Americans are simply lazy. And 20% (and growing) of Chinese are lazy ( http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/333/7564/362 ). And 23% of Canadians (and growing) are lazy ( http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/82-620-m/2005...es/8060-eng.htm ). Unreal.

Actually, it appears that you're the one who has trouble reading, since you're using anecdotal evidence as opposed to the actual study I quoted: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/04/health/n...ion/04well.html "Studies show that junk foods tend to cost less than fruits, vegetables and other healthful foods, whose prices continue to rise." "Last year, Dr. Drewnowski led a study, published in The Journal of the American Dietetic Association, comparing the prices of 370 foods sold at supermarkets in the Seattle area. The study showed that “energy dense” junk foods, which pack the most calories and fewest nutrients per gram, were far less expensive than nutrient-rich, lower-calorie foods like fruits and vegetables. The prices of the most healthful foods surged 19.5 percent over the two-year study period, while the junk food prices dropped 1.8 percent."

No, your ignoring of SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH, and having a one-line cure-all for every problem in the world is you riding on a high horse. You completely ignored the China couple who gained a lot of weight in a few months of living here, eating the same things they ate in China. But it's all about chicken breasts and salads, right?

But a hell of a lot more than something processed in the frozen food department.

You've GOT to be kidding me.... Your proposed meal is mustard greens with garlic and salt? And that's a "double yum" for you?! Thanks for making my point for me!

It must be nice, riding on your high horse all the time.

And if he got hit by a car and died...? Still her fault?

Yeah, plain old boiled beans and oatmeal tastes great! You guys are really stretching now.

Divorce, and the dad skips out on child support. That's her fault though, huh Jim?

Funny, I see no lack of mocking in this thread. Or other threads on TSW.

You might want to do some research on the topic before spouting out - yes, part of it can definitely be attributed to the individual. But there are MANY outside factors invovled as well. Obesity has increased dramatically in the past 30 years -- you're saying that half the planet just "became lazy," end of discussion??? And if you think you can serve a well rounded healthy meal for the same price as processed food, you haven't done much comparison shopping. But maybe you know more than actual doctors who have done real scientific studies...? Read: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/04/health/n...ion/04well.html "Studies show that junk foods tend to cost less than fruits, vegetables and other healthful foods, whose prices continue to rise." "Last year, Dr. Drewnowski led a study, published in The Journal of the American Dietetic Association, comparing the prices of 370 foods sold at supermarkets in the Seattle area. The study showed that "energy dense" junk foods, which pack the most calories and fewest nutrients per gram, were far less expensive than nutrient-rich, lower-calorie foods like fruits and vegetables. The prices of the most healthful foods surged 19.5 percent over the two-year study period, while the junk food prices dropped 1.8 percent."

Well if you honestly believe that it's easy, isn't more expensive, and that the entire obesity issue is simply caused by laziness, I hate to say it, but you're ignorant as it's much more complex an issue than that.

It's much more expensive to eat healthy than it is to eat unhealthy and as Jack said, a lot of people don't know how to buy healthy anyway. Not everyone's a chef, you know. Why are you getting so bent out of shape with the "!@#{:content:}quot; comments, anyway? Would you say the same thing about someone with anorexia? "Just get off your bony ass and eat a damn sandwich!" If you honestly believe that society/advertising/companies have no impact at all, then you're living in a dream world. There's blame to go all around.

Oh, you mean the salad that has 20 grams of fat and 920mg of sodium? http://nutrition.mcdonalds.com/nutritionex...emDetailInfo.do Or maybe the salad that, while only has 9 grams of fat, has 90mg of cholesterol and 1,010 mg of sodium? http://nutrition.mcdonalds.com/nutritionex...emDetailInfo.do Or how about the Burger King salad with 670 calories, 45g of fat, and 1,740mg of sodium! Or go "healthy" and get the grilled chicken salad instead of the crispy one and reduce your calories down to only 460, and your fat down to "only" 29g, your cholesterol to 95mg and your sodium to 1,450. Just because it's a salad doesn't mean it's good for you.

It's funny that people realize there's an issue if someone has anorexia or bulimia, but people say overeating is purely a case of being lazy. I'm not sure how much of an issue plastic is, but who knows. I bet nobody would've thought red M&Ms caused cancer back in the day either. On top of the genetic issues, culture/society is a huge cause. Everyone's expected to cram so much into their day that eating a nutritious meal and finding time to exercise are very difficult. I know I work 10-12 hours a day, spend over an hour in the car commuting, and I need 6-8 hours of sleep -- so that leaves less than 3 hours of "free time," in which I'm supposed to eat and exercise... So people turn to quick meals -- stop at McDonalds or Burger King and you can eat while driving! Super size for only 30 cents? Sure, it's a deal! And deals like, "2 breakfast sandwiches for $2," only adds to the issue. There's some work being done to educate people with some nutritional value printed on bags and such -- but I guarantee that if you talk to people and tell them that a McDonalds bacon, egg, and cheese biscuit has 23g of fat and 1,160mg of sodium, most of them would be shocked. I know I was when I read that last year. And then, like Ray said, everything has high fructose corn syrup because it's cheap to produce. Let's face it, eating healthy takes a lot of time and planning, and it costs a lot more as well.