Saint Doug

I wonder if the players get any proceeds from this deal with Nike? In fact, where does it go at all?

No, the odds are not for every QB in any draft becoming a bust. At least 1 guy, maybe 2, per draft become great players.

How are we going to get Johnny Football with a record of 6-10 or 8-8 or whatever playoff/draft killing record we'll have next year?

I'd totally be down with this provided we also draft an early round QB to develop. However, I have seen no indication that he will be traded. It's too early to tell what they have in Kaepernick, plus why trade away a QB that you have proven you can win with?

I would love Vick going to the Jets. Guarantees us at least a couple divisional wins.

Out of 3 full drafts, Spiller is the only pick he really nailed. That said, we really can't judge this year's draft class yet, but the point still stands. There's some picks from this year's draft class that are looking to be fantastic picks, they're just not playing for the Bills. But this was just a knee-jerk pick so they could deal him to the NYG. He was basically picking Manning for them. He never intended Manning to play a down for SD.

Believe me, this is a well calculated move. The Jets for all intents and purposes are out of the playoff race, so they are planning on tanking the rest of the season. Tebow, love him or hate him, would not guarantee 2 more losses. Meanwhile, by starting McElroy its a win-win situation. If he wins out, then great, they may have a franchise QB already on the roster. If he loses out, they get a better draft position plus they can move on from thinking McElroy's a viable option. Now, only if the Bills had a young QB on the roster to do the same thing.

Ummm, he could actually win us a game. Don't need that.

Chances are he is the next Kevin Kolb, so it's best to unload him while it's still unknown. Besides Matt Schaub and Favre, has any other backup QB ever worked out for another team? And Washington needs to recoup draft picks today, not 4 years from now.

His stock is high as a relatively unknown commodity and GMs are attracted by this. Mathematics and history are against this kid being any good. What are the chances a team drafts 2 elite QBs in one draft? Nil. So the more he plays, the more people are going to see that he's just pedestrian. The time to trade him is this off-season. Plus, are people really going to want to trade for a kid who has been a back-up for 4 years? It's not like he's playing behind a future HOFer.

I was going to say add Pete Metzelaars to the list but you already have him! Great list. You forgot a couple though. Eddie "coach-on-the-field" Robinson. And another - I'm half-serious on this one - Turner Gill.

It is true, under Nix we have found some great players already in the NFL ranks. However, during this same time Whaley has been Director of Pro Personnel and a Pro Personnel scout. So, I wonder how much credit should actually go to Whaley for these pick ups. As for Nix, I used to be a big supporter, but this game against the Seahawks has me thinking. We could have had Wilson, but we reached for some other scrub instead. We could have had Dalton, Kaepernick, or Cousins, but we reached for some other garbage instead. Why was Nix so scared to pick up a non-first round QB in past drafts? For this, he needs to held responsible. Keep him around for a bit, but completely hand Whaley the keys.

Keep him on board. We don't want any late season win-streak shenanigans.

I wouldn't flush them at this point in the season, it might provide an unnecessary spark.

Running for the bus? The best thing the Bills could do, besides inventing a time machine so they can go back in time to lose to the Jags, is to drop their next two games. As things sit today, T'eo won't likely be still on the board when the Bills pick. And besides, the Bills are not one superstar LB away from being a contender.

If Seattle was truly a smart organization, they would put in Flynn.

This game is turning out exactly as planned. Nix's words earlier this week are not a coincidence.

I'm fairly certain Bowe will end up with NE. Bank on it.

If Cousins lights it up and they flip him for a 1st or an early 2nd, Washington's FO will look absolutely brilliant. Buffalo can only dream of having such a "problem".

I'd send Washington a 2nd for him. That's quite a good return on their initial investment, plus they need draft picks.

That's what I was thinking. This thread is definitely a Crayonz thread. No doubt in my mind.

Season was over after we "lost" to Arizona, then lost to the Titans. Doesn't matter what people say, playoff teams don't put forth such performances as those. The astronomical record-setting blow-outs to SF and NE (2 "real" play-off teams) are just icing on the poop cake. No, I'm not upset by the loss. It would be highly unfortunate if the players weren't up, but I'm not. Better draft pick here we come.

Sorry Dude, we're past that. Still doesn't make Vick even a half-way decent QB. He's a 33 year-old turn-over machine benched by a 3-9 team. So, it basically doesn't matter what you're trying to say.

Wait, the Bills *just* gave up the season? No, my friend, that was weeks ago.

There's no way Vick is an upgrade from Fitz either. The numbers don't lie in this case. They are both retread turnover machines. Vick has only had 2 good seasons in his entire career, not to mention he's as fragile as glass.