Low Positive

They haven’t announced that yet. I’m waiting too. My whole family is excited for a surprise road trip.

I used to laugh about this, but they don’t have the equipment to clear the roads so 3” here is more dangerous than 8” in WNY.

I wouldn't think so. Just go straight up I75. No snow here in Cincinnati.

The Bills had better leave soon...

You should get a refund. I want to buy tickets to this as Detroit is only 3.5 hours away from me in Cincinnati.

Anybody hear anything about tickets yet?

I'll be there from Cincinnati.

Well then it looks like I'm going to Detroit on Sunday.

If they move this game, I might go. It's only 3.5 hours from Cincinnati and I feel like the BIlls could use all the support they can get.

If they move it, it will be a home game for the Browns. Bills fans can't travel and Detroit is not that far from Cleveland.

The Raiders and Bengals are really at a financial disadvantage in relation to other NFL teams because the team is both owners' most valuable asset.

The reason that they fail is that the "Patriot Way" only works if the team has a proven track record of winning. Players are willing to play joyless football if they are consistently competing for championships. Daboll is not doing that in NY. In fact, he's building a Bills-like culture to get player buy-in.

He’s just kissing his Mc. Once he finds that, he’ll be just fine.

Not gonna lie. I kinda miss the snow storms. If we get 2 inches here in Cincinnati, they close the schools and there is a run on milk and eggs at Kroger.

Those Thanksgiving games are in the TV contracts and the networks would never allow them to be moved.

This is actually an interesting point at fan behavior on message boards. I think that we complain about play calling because it is the one aspect of the game that we can imagine ourselves doing. I can't throw the ball 50 yards or run a great route, but I can pick plays in Madden.

Not right now he's not, but nobody thought Andy Reid was a great coach until he got to KC. In fact, Patrick Mahomes is going to put Andy Reid in the HoF.

Based upon another thread, these internal issues may be in the coaching staff.

The problem is that those risky throws into tight coverage were working early in the season. Defenses got it all on film and now they are jumping routes. The Bills need to adjust.

I agree with all of this except that the Bills let Levi Wallace walk. They matched the Pittsburgh offer and Wallace chose the Steelers due to the color of his underwear. He might have stayed if the Bills had overpaid him, but that would have been an equally bad decision.

I don't know, maybe you're right. But Josh can't throw that ball in that situation. But then again, he probably shouldn't have thrown that ball to Knox on the game winning TD against KC.

After every loss, there are multiple threads about McD being "outcoached." People love that word. But McD didn't tell Josh to fumble on the goal line. Dorsey didn't tell Josh to throw an interception in OT. In fact, Ken Dorsey called a play with multiple safe pass options. It was Josh Allen that decided to try to force it in to Gabe. I think that people's default is to blame coaching and play calling because they feel that it is the part of the game that they could do. We all know that we can't throw the ball as far as Josh, but we think that we could call a better play than the ones that don't work. The Bills turned the ball over 4 times yesterday. That's all on the players and that's why they lost this game.

How about McKelvin's muffed punt against KC in Buffalo in 2014.

You see this all the time with serious ACL injuries. The hardest part is learning to trust the knee again. But I do agree that he either needs to retire or start playing. He has been medically cleared for enough time that he has had a training camp's worth of football conditioning. Other guys are going out there playing hurt and he is actually the least injured DB on this team right now.

I would argue that it is the exact opposite. If we were all "bandwagon" fans, we would just stop paying attention and find something else to occupy our Sundays. It's because we care so much and had such high expectations for this season that we are so upset with this team right now. What I'm seeing since the bye week is 2019 Josh Allen. There is also something going on where teams are baiting him into INTs. There have been three over the last three games where a DB is playing slightly off the ball and undreneath in zone coverage. Josh sees what he thinks is a wide open receiver. When he begins his windup, the DB jumps the route. It's like almost the exact same thing three times.