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This is very sad news. Bill is the heart of this forum. Here's hoping for a full and speedy recovery.

What does that mean?

Apparently not.

Ya think?

We are only allowed one per quarter.

So are his pants.

JS obviously feels so strongly in his opinions that he has become them....and we all know that opinions are like arseholes.

Yeah, just please be careful not to tar everyone with the same brush. My biggest concern with TT, and has been all through preseason, is that he hasn't shown that he is capable of pulling the trigger on downfield throws from the pocket....at least not at a regular enough rate. When the Pats were stifling our offense through most of the game(keying the run and underneath routes), this ability from TT was sorely needed. I am hopeful that it is a confidence thing(and not a skill thing) and TT will quickly develop....but if he doesn't he will not make it as a longterm QB starter in the league IMO.

I did that Kirby....and I figure you were a little hot under the collar with your initial comments.....but they happened. You stated: I regret not starting a TT thread myself(which I did consider doing as there was no discussion thread on TT for several hours after the match). I chose not to start one because I didn't feel like being attacked by some of my fellow Bills fans directly after a bad loss. My point is that these conversations certainly would happen regardless of whether the EJ fans are butthurt or not because there are many non-EJ lovers who have strong concerns over aspects of TT's game.

I don't think that Roman suddenly opened up the offense. I think perhaps it was TT who stepped up towards the end of the game and started throwing a couple of the type of passes that earlier in the game was unwilling to throw(instead opting to either check down or scramble). Above everything else he brings to the table, this concept gives me hope for his future as the Bills QB.

If this thread was about the reasons why we lost the game you would have an excellent point. As it stands however, you are pretty much saying that we can only discuss the merits of those perceived 20% of things. Personally I would like the ability to discuss all aspects of my beloved Bills on the Bills forum. Here you are discussing the situation...which is great. Unfortunately your earlier post was accusing all those who wanted to discuss TT's perceived flaws as being butthurt EJ fans (sic).

You obviously missed the point. Sure, there are some here that are madly in love with EJ and that drives their particular narative....but there are many like myself who would like the opportunity to discuss the relative merits/weaknesses of our starting QB without posts like your earlier one inferring that we are all rabid irrational EJ lovers.

I'm not really sure what your point is here. Are you saying that you agree TT's play was unacceptable....but he is the best we've got?

Actually the D from the first Pats game last season(under Schwartz) was pretty similar to yesterday's performance. Brady 27-37-361-4-0, 2 sacks for 15 3rd down percentage was actually a lot better with the Rex D against Pats. (Note: I am in no way defending the bad play of Rex's D this week....merely pointing out that the Schwartz D was comparable.)

I have been getting a strong feeling of deja vu regarding TT. I think he is seeing the field fine...but is suffering from EJitis. It seemed like every time he dropped back to pass, he would look, decide not to throw, and then would either dump it short or the pocket would collapse. He really needs to just trust what he sees(and his talented WRs) and throw the ball downfield IMO.

And it doesn't even rhyme!

2 wins and 8 loses....in 4 years? That's an interesting fact. Whenever I see a cherry picked time cutoff I assume adding just one more year will likely change the statistics dramatically. Lets have a look at 5 years: Rex past 5 years against the Pats: 3-8 Bills past 5 years against the Pats: 2-8

Similarly to finding a Franchise QB, one cannot simply go out and add a run game or good defense.

Who are you calling sensitive? I'm not sensitive! Why would you say such a thing?

Hehe...he's undoubtedly the tougher player to replace. I'm hopeful that both men will play at probowl levels till at least 2017(along with Dareus and Hughes)....that would truly be fantastic.

Yeah, I personally would be wary about extending Mario unless we really need the cap relief. One just doesn't know however when players will hit the wall. Kyle might be making probowls at the age of 35 while Mario might lose a step at 31....or vice versa.

Yeah, 1st year cap hits can be kept low if one wants to do it that way. Regarding your Mario extension/restructure point....and relating it to your comment upthread about Kyle Williams age... Kyle is only 1.5 years older than Mario. Kyle becomes a FA in 2018...Mario in 2019....6 months differnce in age when hitting FA. It seems odd that you would think to cut Kyle before that time....yet extend Mario past that time.

According to Spotrac.....rounding numbers to nearest $0.5M.... We have $7.5M left for rollover. We are $4.5M over a projected $150M cap for next year(I expect it will be $3-8M higher). Harvin is stated as a 1 year deal, though they list his full cap hit....will be $8M savings if he is let go. Clay's restructure will save $7.5M. That means...on the assumed $150M 2016 cap we will have $18.5M in cap space(plus the extra guessed $3-8M of cap increase). That should be easily enough to re-sign Glenn and Bradham(Gilmore will already be earning $11M+ in 2016). I would be astounded if we cut Kyle Williams as we have just given him a pay rise....unless his play drops dramatically. It seems to me that the plan is to keep our 4 star DLmen as a unit through 2017.

Though I don't disagree with some of your observations, I think perhaps there most likely are many factors involved....and to conclude that Roman will keep that mentality(assuming of course he had that this game) is IMO a bit panicky. I imagine that the all-22 footage might highlight many of the other factors involved.....and we will have a better picture perhaps of just how much Roman was holding back. Very gutsy btw to voice thoughtful negativity directly after such a big win. 'Twas bound to get you many attacks.

Yeah, by the Patriots.