DarthICE

I did...

Well, Dallas had the 12th ranked rush D last year, we had 22nd with Poz in the lineup. I think it is more of a concern than most would think. Unless Trent learns to sling the ball with anticipation and with guys covered like Romo did, I see a ton of fast 3 and outs and Tampa controlling with their running game.

Well there is the kiss of death!

Wow, I agree, how much more can you dumb down this defense? also I guess blitzing is out? God Drew Brees is gonna throw 10 TD's on this defense.

No one is moving to LA.

Ellison got torched for both TD's monday, he can't cover. I thought the Tampa 2's ILB had to be able to drop deep and cover the deep middle? Hummm... Put Harris in there!

I was fine with manning till Gonzalez went down in the first quarter, I have him as well as a WR for depth. I have caddy williams of Tampa and was thinking of playing him this weekend since Poz is out. Sorry....

Peyton Manning (Ind - QB) Randy Moss (NE - WR) Terrell Owens (Buf - WR) Adrian Peterson (Min - RB) Thomas Jones (NYJ - RB) Jeremy Shockey (NO - TE) Nate Burleson (Sea - WR) Percy Harvin (Min - WR) I am tempted to try and trade manning for Brees somehow. With Trent Edwards being captain checkdown in Buffalo I am thinking of trying to trade owens as well.

As for as Poz, if the broken bone results in nerve damage....he can be done permanently. repeated breaks of the same bodypart is not a good sign, it can signal deeper issues.

Kelly threw deep to Reed, Lofton and Beebe. Kelly threw deep crossing patterns. Kelly slung the ball where angles dared to tread...went to 4 superbowls then elected first ballot to the HOF. is AVP going to bring Kelly back to run this offense, because that is the ONLY way it resembles anything like we had in the 90's. We are going nowhere with captain checkdown not using his weapons.

I called my brother in law and said 'Are you watching this...turn it on' He did just as we scored the last TD. He says 'OMG you guys are gonna win this....'

Exactly. When you have a former QB in the booth calling BS, that pretty much sums it up right there.

You do know captain checkdown only led this team to 17 points right? Once Brady shook the rust off he took the defense to the woodshed...Drew Brees has no rust. Wow guys, I know last night was fun and all, but its the day after...start looking at the stats and this team objectively. 3-5 at the break is more like it.

No way we beat the saints. Brees is gonna throw for close to 400 on this team. My concerns are, we can't keep playing safe and checking down on offense. also Bell doesn't look fully ready. I see teams really bringing the heat on his side starting this week against Tampa

Agreed that was nasty. But I gotta wonder, since this is the same arm is this going to be problematic throughout his career?

Great. Just what we need our starting safety crying....

That isn't a probowl performance?

Wow. In his 2nd season as a pro and 2nd season returning kicks and he doesn't know the rules? Wow...

Winning / playoff calibre teams win these games. Ralph did say playoffs this year was the goal right? I will say after watching Bell struggle, I gotta wonder how much Tampa Blitzes his side this week?

Your take on a probowl performance and mine are two different ones. 15-25, 212 yds, 2 tds is an average game. Nice, safe. 39-53, 378 yds, 2 tds and a win when the pressure is on and you carry the team on your back, is a little more like a probowl performance. BUT, 26-34, 358 yds, 6 tds To me is a probowl performance. But I digress...

Well Brandon listened. By all reports he wanted Jauron fired, but ralph said no because he would have to eat the contract.

I see. Well had he made better use of his WR's it would have been more than 11 points. As for as many picking NE to go back, I bet they are backtracking very rapidly after watching tonights game. Bottom line, I agree with Jim Kelly who said this preseason trent checks down way too fast. He needs to step up and take more shots. Some case in points...when we had a short 3rd down to convert, he had one on one coverage and attempted to check down instead of taking a shot. both Gruden and Jaws nailed him on it. Also when he threw the curl to Evans on, Jaws said on the opposite side TO was open deeper on a post pattern. Lastly on a checkdown to Fred for 16 yards in the 2nd quarter, the Safety got caught flat footed looking into the flat. Had Trent held the ball about one second later, then threw deep, we have a TD to Owens deep as TO had just blown by his defender. Bottom line, for this team to get better on offense, Trent is going to have to start taking shots downfield, sometimes into small windows and in anticipation of the WR being only slightly open. All the GOOD QB's in the NFL do it.

Well NE is supposed to be the top offense, NO actually is the best offense.

funny, didnt' moss and Welker come back and catch over 10 passes each though? Fact checking, what a concept.

Keep making excuses for Trent.