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I dunno. I don't always read in the context of a thread, so if it is dependent on that sort of interaction, maybe it is. I still say, btw, that trying to get an X like Thomas, Mitchell, or Legette is worth the risk, though I have also consistently said I love McConkey. I agree with the fella who says McConkey and Kincaid would be a natural and excellent pairing.

Fortunately, you can find very good players at those positions in the third round and on day 3.

Well, let's hope so.

I don't know what you paid to get #14, but I suspect it was too much. And you held onto #28? Something illegal is involved. I traded back from #60 in order to acquire two day 2 picks. This is perhaps more realistic. 28. Adonai MitchellWR Texas 80. Javon BullardS Georgia 97. Braelon AllenRB Wisconsin 128. Tanor BortoliniOC Wisconsin 133. Jordan JeffersonDT LSU 144. Zak ZinterOG Michigan 160. Justin EboigbeDT Alabama 163. Luke McCaffreyWR Rice 189. Marist LiufauLB Notre Dame 200. Caedan WallaceOT Penn State 204. Eric WattsEDGE UConn

That only happens if Beane is trading high picks from 2025, because from his list, Latu and Sweat in a best case scenario cost you #28 and #60. That in itself has an outside chance on a propitious couple of days. I don't think that it is too likely, and then where are your two WRs? Most likely way after the run on WR that will peter out around pick 45 or so, which means you are no longer getting even late third tier WRs. That would be a massive fail given the quality of WR in this draft.

Latu might fall because of the injury concern, though I share that concern. I mostly have a different list at WR. I like Thomas, Mitchell, Legette, and then I like McConkey, who isn't an X, though he can play outside. I am biased, because an UGA fan, but I think he is going to be better than many imagine. I like Polk and Baker the best from the rest of your selections. I've said a few times here that I am afraid McD is going to rush the podium to select Cooper Dejean. Newton is the only fella that could fall to #28 that I wouldn't blame them for taking, though I strongly favor WR.

I presume ahead of time that most folks recognize that everyone is making a guess, educated or not. And so much depends on the specific situation that offers or complicates the opportunity presented to a player. All that said, in any field, one ascertains which voices hold a degree of authority for you. That Cosell was off on Mingo doesn't really answer to whether Mitchell will turn out well or not. In a similar, analogous way, the Bills making a trade up for Watkins years ago bears zero import for whether any other putative trade up for WR would work out well or not. Anyway, I am not tied to Mitchell. It's a shame we are not really in a position to move up for one of the top 3. All you can do is take your shot and hope for the best. This is the question that occurs to me as well, but I was distracted and too lazy to ask it. I have those two ahead of Coleman for the reason you stipulate.

So, he has to play where Kincaid plays most of the time? I don't think I like that. I wish Odunze would fall far enough to make a play for him. (I presume he is WR3.) I'd gamble on Thomas' traits, but even he is probably out of reach. I think Legette is the next best play at WR that is likely to be there at #28, but I think Franklin might be their pick. Read an article comparing Franklin to Diggs. And Worthy might be an option, but neither of them is a big X.

I know you think you're brighter than the rest of us. The wise are few, but taking an unpopular opinion doesn't mean you're right. As I wrote above, I like the player, just not the cost. And I gave alternatives that I think are excellent players. If you view Dejean as a unicorn, that might justify the choice, but I know from other threads we just have strong strategic and interpretive differences.

I'd much rather find a way to trade back up into the third and take Javon Bullard or Cole Bishop. WR in round one or trade back into the early second and take WR. That should be the play. I don't like the edge players likely to be there at #28. If Newton is sitting there, I'll understand taking him at #28. He's a really good player, but it's not what I would want to do. I do think McD would love to have this fella on the team. So would I, if it doesn't mean you spent #28 to get him. Well, I think it would put the fan base over the edge. Except for you, you like that sort of thing.

To be honest, the more I research, the more I think I would be willing to pay a fairly high price to move up and grab one of the top 3 if someone slips to 8 or 9.

Appreciate your thoughts. I'd gamble on Thomas and his traits, but I don't think he's likely to fall within a modest trade up, and I'm not sure Beane is plausibly in a position to do much more than that to get him. I'm mostly not on the fellas you are liking, but I can see how you could make a case for them. I'd be fine with Polk at #60 if they do something rather crazy like taking Cooper Dejean at #28. (Like the player, just not NFL S in the first. I just have a feeling he is McD's crush.) They ought to go find a way to get Bullard in the 3rd, btw. Worthy would be exciting, but he's really a feather. I'd prefer a WR that doesn't just scare with speed, but can punish a tackler, and block. Ideally. Legette is the fella I come back to. I can't get past Franklin coming in shorter and lighter, then that awful Combine. That's probably not fair, and folks like his tape, apart from some drops issues. I'd rather not repeat that aspect of the Davis WR2 era.

Devonshire is a CB, no?

So you're worried about Thomas and you don't like Mitchell. I'm sure you've said who you like at WR who is outside the top 3 impossible to get fellas, but I don't feel like searching for it. If you rule those two out, I'm on Legette, then McConkey, even though he's not what most folks are looking for.

If that is a true story, the day 2 Center won't happen. Move up DT -- Sweat, Jenkins, Fiske, there are a bunch of candidates. The main point is that while Beane "has work to do," what needs to be done is not some unlikely and super difficult task. A good GM can accomplish what needs to be done.

I'd like to end up with Legette (or Thomas/Mitchell, if they fall), Van Pran, and Bullard/Bishop by the end of day 2. Beane would have to make some trades to pull it off, but it's not a ridiculous ask. Then I'd take the best DT left on my board, and then the best RB. With what I have left, I take BPA, though I'd opt for OL and maybe a late round edge if it's a tie.

They should just take him at #28 if Thomas and Mitchell are gone.

I think he's trying to speak it into existence. It's magical thinking.

I was hopeful at the end of last season. Turned out to be a mirage. I expected KA to make more aggressive moves in the off-season, and pretty much all he did was bring in Clifton and ancient Erik Johnson. They absolutely need an experienced coach who will demand results and be mean. The Sabres are soft, and they reflect their kind, mild-mannered leader. I know folks will say nostalgia, but I'd love to hire Ruff. Still mad about Peca. Unfortunately, I think this analysis is correct.

https://www.the33rdteam.com/adonai-mitchell-nfl-draft-2024-combine-results-scouting-report-for-texas-wr/ https://www.buffalobills.com/video/greg-cosell-in-depth-film-breakdown-of-wr-draft-targets

Not everyone likes him, but I would not pass on Mitchell at #28. Don't know if you have an opinion on Greg Cosell, but I think he is an excellent analyst. You should look up his take on Mitchell.

I think he goes day 2.

I guess you could stipulate enough conditions to try and manipulate the scenario into a particular choice. I just glanced at this page, so maybe I'm not following the conversation properly. If the question is about WR specifically, and you stipulate Thomas and Mitchell are gone, and Legette is a second rounder on the Bills' board, I suspect Troy Franklin could be the choice. I'm not high on him, nor am I keen on Coleman at #28, but it's possible those are the fellas they are looking at. I would make most of the board unhappy and take McConkey, if Legette is ruled out and you have to take a WR at #28.

31. Adonai MitchellWR Texas 60. T'Vondre SweatDT Texas 89. Javon BullardS Georgia 128. Maason SmithDT LSU 133. Beaux LimmerOC Arkansas 160. Isaiah DavisRB South Dakota State 163. Tykee SmithS Georgia 189. Joe Milton IIIQB Tennessee 200. Dylan McMahonOG NC State 204. Cornelius JohnsonWR Michigan 248. Sundiata AndersonEDGE Grambling State

I think they probably try and trade back, but if Cooper Dejean is on the board, McD might just run the card up himself.