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I am really not understanding the hate on this deal. It feel like people are living in the mid 2000s cap era . We have him locked up for 5 more years until his age 29 season for an average of 18.6 million a year. Within the next year or two the top tier guys are going to be in the 35-40 million a year range with the current and future cap. Most of these guys will also be in their late 20s or early 30s. Having a guy like up for his prime at half that number seems pretty good

For all those saying you don’t like this and want to move on that’s not how you get better. You keep good players and add more around them. Moving on from groot to get Hendrickson you are improving but not drastically. Keep king groot and trading for Hendrickson or signing sweat while moving on from epenesa or miller is how you actually get over the hump.

You could easily make it work. Between groot von and epenesa they were scheduled to have cap hits combined of 33 million. Griots extension probably frees up 8-9 million. If von takes a pay cut that is another 7-8 million and then trade or release epenesa gets you another 3.5. So just the savings you get for DE this year through those moves can give you almost 20 million for a guy like Hendrickson or sweat

thanks for the info. I think I saw previously that this makes him the 8th highest paid DE. Hendrickson and sweats deals will likely be more this offseason so that puts him at 10th right in line with where his stats are. what people are not realizing is the cap has gone up consistently and will continue to do so. In 3 years when this extension will really kick in the cap will be 75 to 100 million more. Tre Hendrickson signed a 4 year deal in 2020 worth 60 million. When he signed that deal he had 20 sacks in is 4 year nfl career. 2020 salary cap 198 million 2025 salary cap- 279 million This deal for groot is very similar at 4 year 80 million. Yes 20 million more but the cap went up 81 million and will continue to. Groot has had 25 sacks in 4 years

We can free up a lot of room pretty easily: Von cut or pay cut - 8 million Allen ext. or restructure- 11 million dawkins restructure- 9.8 million oliver restructure- 8.7 million That alone without cutting anyone frees up 36 million Restructure Knox- 6.7 million extend groot- 9.7 million extend McGovern- 4.7 Million this fees up another 21 million and we still have not cut 1 person there are other saving moves that could be made as well. What won’t happen is cutting Milano, Samuel, Knox. Cutting Milano reduces cap 1.5 million cutting Knox reduces cap 6.6 million cutting Samuel reduces cap 3 million Besides miller the only cuts that really save decent money are: Epenesa- 3 million in savings edwards- 4 million in savings tribusky- 2.5 million in savings

getting these guys signed now let’s you know what their contracts will look like for years to come before getting to free agency. These extensions actually help us know how to structure free agent deals and what space we will have not just this year but in the years to come. also with the cap continuing to explode this is actually a pretty cheap deal. I think people are going to have some sticker shock when FA opens. pre free agency this makes Bernard the 8-10th high paid linebacker. By the time this extension actually kicks in he is likely in the 15-20 range and only 25 million is guaranteed

If this gets done it also opens up the possibility of cutting or trading epenesa and saving 3.5 million. you could potentially include epenesa in a package for Hendrickson. Hendrickson for 2nd, 4th, and epenesa 2025 Defensive Ends: (Hendrickson, Groot, von, 2nd rounder, Solomon) looks pretty solid to me

Do you not think he has earned a slight bump in pay? I think at less than 4 million a year he is still a value. He is a reliable receiver, excellent blocker, good special teams player, and great culture guy. He contributes was more than guys like Tyler matekovich, Andre Robert’s, etc who all made simalair money with a lower overall salary cap

Mack makes 2.6 million this year. I think a 2 year 7.5 million dollar deal would be reasonable for both sides maybe guarantee like 4 million of it to make it more appealing to Hollins.

Bills should bring back Hollins, copper, and Ty Johnson and then focus rest of off-season and draft on defense. Maybe use a 4th on a receiver to develop but just keep this offense together. Hollins and Johnson should not cost much to re-sign and with the stats cooper has this year you could maybe do a 2 year 36 million dollar deal with a void year or 2 to keep cap hit resaonable

McDermott’s end of game management is so frustrating but Joe Brady let him down in that situation. You cannot run the ball in that situation. McDermott is the head coach so he needs to communicate that but Brady cannot call that play. It put McDermott in a really bad spot either let 20-30 seconds run off the clock (the correct decision) or call the timeout. He should not have been in that situation. He deserves plenty of blame but Brady also deserves some criticism as well

There is not much from a cut perspective. Von would save 8.5 million (17 million is post 6/1) Tribusky would save 2.5 most of cap savings will come from extensions or restructures

It is always possible but I doubt they cut Milano next year. Cutting him would cost the bills an additional 1.1 million in cap space.

With it being a bye week and more than half the season figured it would be a good opportunity to get everyone’s thoughts on the teams needs for next year: OL- I don’t think any FA or draft investment is needed here. We bring back all 9 olineman and a couple promising guys on the PS RB- Cook and Davis are a nice 1-2 punch. My guess is being back Ty Johnson on a minimum deal and then have Gore compete not much of an investment needed TE- Kincaid and Knox will be back. The question is do we bring Morris back on minimum deal or just promote Davidson from practice squad? Again not much of an investment if any needed. QB- Allen is here and that’s all that matters. They seem to like Mitch they might bring him back on a 2 year minimum type deal but I would like to use one of the day 3 picks to draft a guy who will be here cheap for 4 years. WR- Shakir, Coleman, Samuel are all back. I think a 2-3 year deal for cooper and another 1 year deal for Hollins makes sense. Use a day 3 pick on a wr to develop. If the bills can get cooper back they need to make very little investment in the offense through FA and the draft. on defense this is where I see a lot of high draft picks being used LB- Milano, Bernard, Williams, Spector, Andreson are all under contract. Morrow will likely walk and I could see someone like Dodson returning on a 1 year deal to fill out the depth chart CB- Benford and Johnson are the guys, Elam will be here as will Ingram and Lewis. An investment will need to be made here. The question is will they purse a vet or use an early pick. DL- Groot, epenesa, Oliver, Carter are the young core. Do the move on from miller and jones? Do they bring back smoot? I expect multiple draft picks and possibly a FA or 2 signing. Solomon will also factor in here as depth S- Rapp will be a starter, bishop and Lewis will be here. Do they re-sign Hamlin? Should they? Is Rapp and Bishop the starters with Cine and Lewis the back up? Seems like an investment needs to be made if Hamlin walks thoughts!?

All 9 offensive lineman will be back next year too. We potentially could invest a late rd pick on Oline but in reality we don’t need to touch the position in FA or the draft

As others have said probably weren’t sure on Samuel. It also gives hamler a game check to also keep him happy. With Virgil being elevated to the 53 and shavers also getting called up multiple times probably wanted to gives hamler some incentive to keep working hard and get a little pay bump

Agreed a I think Ankou for louge swap makes a lot of sense but that still leaves 2 roster spots. Maybe Cine up from Practice squad to replace edwards. Still seems like there is an available spot for an outside addition

Rapp was always going to be a starter. He was here last year so knew the defense and they gave him a 3 year deal. I think the thought edwards would be the other guy with Hamlin and bishop backing up this year with bishop taking over next year but injuries in the offseason derailed that plan

Bills ow have multiple open roster spots I would expect some moves today: edwards cut Smoot on IR Thatopens 2 plus louge seems like a very easy player to cut and put on practice squad

the next 6 games before the by it’s pretty realistic to go 5-1 or 4-2. Bills at worst should be 7-4 going into the bye week with 2 games against the patriots at the end of the season. Going 2-2 or maybe even 1-3 in the other 4 games probably wins us the division at 10-7 or 11-6

I would be calling the panthers about Diontae Johnson. He is in the last year of his deal, would be a resign candidate next year for a reasonable deal at age 28.

Personally spending 40-50 million on 5 guys on the online to me is a better investment than paying a single elite WR 35 million a year. But I know everyone has different team building philosophies. Josh Allen threw for 400-4500 yards a year when he had an elite high paid WR in Diggs. This year I expect he will still throw for the same amount of yards it will just be split amongst more guys. If we had Jefferson and chase on the team I don’t think Josh Allen suddenly stars throwing for 5000 yards I think it ends up like the dolphins where hill and waddle get all the catches and yards and no one else gets any. To me having a top online and dline with numerous solid consistent guys at the playmaker position will get us farther than a couple of elite wr

Brown is one of the most athletic tackles in the league and still only 26 years old. I get he isn’t a star WR or DL but he is young and still developing and can be a top RT in the NFL. A lot of people also keep commenting on the young pipeline of OL. I am excited for those players as well but none of them have started an NFL game. To just say we would replace Brown with one of them is a bit of a stretch and exactly what people are crying about this year and that we filled out WR and Safety group with a bunch of unproven guys. We now have the opportunity to keep our entire starting OL and depth together for the next next 2-3 years. We have a ton of picks available next year and without having to invest picks in the OL you can use them to get impact playmakers

I think it’s a pretty big upgrade over last year. Settle and phillips sucked last year. Carter is a fairly high draft pick who was productive in college and Johnson is an experienced 55 game starter.

There really isn’t a bad seat. Everyone has their own preference. I personally like the 300 level as close to the 50 as possibly. Incredible view of the entire field