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Yes that would be great. That would put him at 2nd in catches and yards and first in tds on our team based on the wr stats for bills in 2024

I don’t get why people are writing him off like he is gonna be lucky to make this team. Cleveland put a tender on him that guaranteed him 3.4 million this year so he will likely make more or close to that in guaranteed money. He is an equivalent player to John brown and Cole Beasley when they joined the bills here are the starts for all 3 for the 4 years prior to joining the bills: Moore- joined bill at age 25 200 catches 2162 yards 9tds Beasley- joined bills at age 30 228 catches 2355 yards 17 tds Brown- joined bills at age 29 167 catches 2534 yards 17 tds Moore is just getting to his prime while brown and Beasley put up similar numbers during their prime

I would assume he is getting at least 3.5 guaranteed. When the browns put the tender on him that guaranteed him 3.43 million from them for this season. I doubt he would sign for less than that

I could see shenault still making the team. He can be wr 6, punt returner, kick returner. He offers way more value than codrington does as solely a PR (he provides nothing at corner and they pulled him from KR later in the year last year

I think Cordington is gonna have a hard time making the team. He did some kick off returns last year but Davis and Ty Johnson returned just as many. He is the punt returner right now but doesn’t give you any other special teams or defense. I think being able to keep an extra guy like Lewis, Ingram, or Dane Jackson who give you multi phase special teams availability and solid depth on defense will provide more value to the team. Your WR 5 should be your punt returner. If shenault wins that spot he can punt return, kick ,return, and give you something at WR. Even if he doesn’t win that wr 5 spot keeping him as a 6th WR/KR/PR provides more value that codrington just as PR.

Rb is full on the active roster and they have 2PS guys they already like in gore JR and Darlington Evans. They will probably bring in 1 more guy for training camp but they may just wait it out and if the guys are all healthy roll with that.

Ya I like him but he gives nothing on defense and I just don’t think you have the room for him. I think Forrest or shenault (or another WR5) will be the punt returner

Assuming we don’t add any meaningful FAs this is how I see the roster breakdown assuming everyone is healthy: QB: Allen, Trubisky (cut- white, buchle) RB: Cook, Davis, Johnson (cut-Evans, Gore Jr) FB: Gilliam TE: Kincaid, Knox, Hawes (Cut- Davidson) WR: Palmer, Shakir, Coleman, Samuel, Shenault (Cut- shavers, Virgil, pranther) OL: Dawkins, Edwards, McGovern, Torrence, Brown, Anderson, Van Pran, granger, gable, Lundt (cut- green, Edwards, gouraige) DE: Bosa, groot, epenesa, Solomon, Jackson (susp- Hoecht) DT: Oliver, Jones, sanders, walker, Carter (susp-ogunjob cut-logue) LB: Bernard, Milano, Williams, ulofoshio, Andereson (cut-Spector) CB: Benford, Harriston, white, Johnson, Hancock, strong (cut- Jackson, Ingram, coddington, hardy, couch) S: Rapp, Bishop, Forrest, Hamlin, Lewis P-Camarda K-Bass LS-Ferguson Offense-24 Defense- 26 (does not include 2 suspended players) ST- 3

My hope is the giants want to come back to the first round to grab dart so they have the 5th year option. Bills get: rd 2 (34) rd 3 (99) Giants get rd 1 (30) rd 6 (177) Bills the package rd 4 (109) and rd 5 (173) to get another 3rd. That would give the bills 5 top 100 picks along with 1 still in the 4th 2 in the 5th and 1 in the sixth.

He is only 27 doesn’t turn 28 until November. Center can usually play well into their mid 30s. A 3 year extension seems reasonable and takes him through his prime years

Unless there is a guy they love I think they are done at Saftey. They have 5 guys already. Rapp Bishop Hamlin Lewis Forrest at corner you have: Benford johnson jackson Ingraham coddington It’s doubtful they keep more than 11 in the secondary. One early CB pick and then a later pick at CB to compete with Ingram for the last spot

Doubtful he makes the team but seems like he can compete for that last roster spot and also provide special teams value. Likely a guy they could keep on PS. his first 2 years were decent: 58 catches 600 yards 63 catches 619 yards then gets traded to the panthers and gets: 27 catches for 272 yards in 13 games then the last 2 years only had 10 catches (on 10 targets) and 5 catches. Did have some return yards those years but just completely fell off.

I think this greatly increases the odds of a WR high in the draft. Based on their contracts it seems like we have 6 locks for the dline groot bosa hoecht oliver ogunjobi jones likely not ready to give up on yet Solomon carter epenesa that leave room for 1 dlineman to make the roster. Now if 2 guys are there early they love they could certainly take them but I see a likely pick at 1T and then the other 2 early picks CB and WR

Not sure how we overpaid for epenesa he got a 2 year 12 million dollar deal. He has 20 sacks over the last 3 years. Guys with less production are signing deals for much more. If he had the same production for another team over that time and we signed him as a FA people would be excited

Could certainly roster 2 more but generally we only keep 5

We are likely going to carry 10 dlineman. 5DT and 5DE. With the signing yesterday I think we are probably done with vet dline unless we can make a trade from Hendrickson. We will likely sign a vet DT and then draft a DE and DT early. I wouldn’t be surprised with a 1 year deal for Calais Campbell. DE: draft pick epenesa solomon 3T: oliver Campbell carter 1T: jones draft pick DE: Groot hoecht use test of FA for corner and saftey

Everyone is overreacting there are still a ton of options out there give me chardavious ward, Darius slayton and Bobby brown!

So if you didn’t sign those 2 and signed DK what are you doing at MLB and DE. Minimum type players? I would rather go with what we have at wr and add a guy like Palmer and a draft pick and actually spend out money on defense. Getting ride of those guys to sign their replacement isn’t making us better

I wanted metcalf and the 2nd round pick is a not a problem but giving him 33 million a season is a bit much for his production. I also really don’t like a 5 year deal that take him to 32 years old and his game his not one that would translate once he starts to decline physically.

Groot and Benford are the clearly the 2 best players on defense. Followed probably by Bernard and Oliver. So we have locked up 3 of our 4 best players on that side of the ball. Rather than letting these 4 guys walk and trying to replace them we should be focused on replacing the guys that worst players. We will have the cap space and will continue to have the space to sign our good players and bring in guys through FA and the draft.

That’s where we disagree. I feel he is already an above average defensive end that is 24 years old and ascending. He played 1 year in college. Hendrickson in is first 4 years before signing his deal with cincy had 20 sacks. Groot in his first 4 years has 25. He is an elite run defender gets a lot of pressure.

I am really not understanding the hate on this deal. It feel like people are living in the mid 2000s cap era . We have him locked up for 5 more years until his age 29 season for an average of 18.6 million a year. Within the next year or two the top tier guys are going to be in the 35-40 million a year range with the current and future cap. Most of these guys will also be in their late 20s or early 30s. Having a guy like up for his prime at half that number seems pretty good

For all those saying you don’t like this and want to move on that’s not how you get better. You keep good players and add more around them. Moving on from groot to get Hendrickson you are improving but not drastically. Keep king groot and trading for Hendrickson or signing sweat while moving on from epenesa or miller is how you actually get over the hump.

You could easily make it work. Between groot von and epenesa they were scheduled to have cap hits combined of 33 million. Griots extension probably frees up 8-9 million. If von takes a pay cut that is another 7-8 million and then trade or release epenesa gets you another 3.5. So just the savings you get for DE this year through those moves can give you almost 20 million for a guy like Hendrickson or sweat

thanks for the info. I think I saw previously that this makes him the 8th highest paid DE. Hendrickson and sweats deals will likely be more this offseason so that puts him at 10th right in line with where his stats are. what people are not realizing is the cap has gone up consistently and will continue to do so. In 3 years when this extension will really kick in the cap will be 75 to 100 million more. Tre Hendrickson signed a 4 year deal in 2020 worth 60 million. When he signed that deal he had 20 sacks in is 4 year nfl career. 2020 salary cap 198 million 2025 salary cap- 279 million This deal for groot is very similar at 4 year 80 million. Yes 20 million more but the cap went up 81 million and will continue to. Groot has had 25 sacks in 4 years