Bill from NYC
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Because Joe NC is a UFA after 05. The "tag and trade" thing that worked so well with Peerless is less of an option this time. The Raiders tried this with Woodson who promptly signed the offer. Now, the Raiders are stuck with a 10 million dollar, no-cut contract for a cornerback, who will be a UFA once again in 06.
It has been posted here that NC would cost almost 9 mil if franchised.
This seems way to risky imo.
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Because if Nate signs the deal, he will receive approx. 9 million GAURANTEED dollars and become a UFA once again the following year.
Woosdon just did this to the Raiders, or should I say that the Raiders did it to themselves? The franchise tag price is VERY high at the CB position.
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Look, do you want an apology for my being rude? You got it. I am sorry.
The thing is, I think it is silly to argue about who has a "better" religion. This is simply my opinion. OK?
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I never knew Clements was one of our most beloved players.
Am I the only one who doesn't like the guy? Very good player, not great, not very smart, and he's a punk who looks like he should be playing for the early '90's Dolphins/Cowboys. If we're going to shell out big $ to retain a CB, I'd rather have given it to Winfield. Also, he only made the Pro Bowl because a couple of other CB's decided not to go - not that the Pro Bowl means anything anyway.
Wow. Imo, Clements is clearly superior to Winfield. Also, as a Bills fan, character does mean a lot to me, and after having watched each and every game Clements has appeared in since he joined the team, I am not seeing him as a "punk."
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Does anyone realize that the bills were one game out of the playoffs last year? This is not a rebuilding peroid, not a time to take a step back in order to plan for the future. The future is now young QB's can get good teams over the hump, especially with great defenses to back them up. Keep clements and pay him next year. He plays many facets of the game and is a key aspect of their highly rated defense.
Your point is valid, but remember that there now exists a hole at LT and DT (although I am not as worried about DT).
Also, I dont know what your outlook is on JP, but I view him as a talented question mark. I for one cant get worked up because he makes some ridiculous remark to a little kid, etc. I need to see results on the field, and until I do, my expectations are not high, so I am not looking at 05 to be a season where the Bills make a superbowl run. Not yet.
While I would love to see Nate stay with the Bills, I think that the worst case scenario would be to lose him in 06 and get zero in return. This does not mean that I am in favor of just letting him go either.
Mark seems to paint the best possible scenario in another thread, and this imo is based on the premise that eith TD will not cough up the huge bucks, and/or Nate wants out.
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Just why would one choose a religion or denomination if it were not explicitly better (to them)? Should one choose an inferior one? Or one with glaring weaknesses and inconsistencies or fallacious roots or questionable legitimacy? I also believe United States to be the best nation in the world and I hope Brits/Canadians/ disagree. Finally, I hope your chosen set of beliefs is, in your mind, superior, if different than mine.
Yeah thanks. We are all secure in our knowledge that you favor your own religion over others. Congrats.
Carry on as you choose, but imo, your posts on this topic are out of place and I'm sorry, bordering on juvenile.
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I am truly sorry. May God rest his soul and help you and your family through this.
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Whoever is selected at #9 this April will be vastly overpaid. Multiple teams are trying to trade down out of the top 15 slots, due to the shortage of true blue chippers.
If a trade was to be made, I'd take a 2nd or 3rd rounder this year...and a #1 in 2006. The next draft is loaded with quality LT candidates and seems to be much stronger overall, according to Ourlads Scouting.
One position that is loaded with depth this year is CB. So quality could be found in Round #2.
I wish to keep Nate but if TD already knows he's walking after 2005, after discussions with his agent, then a trade should be considered. The Franchise tag is way too high for CB's these days. Didn't the Pats win the Superbowl with 2 backups at CB ?
Well done Mark. It would have taken me perhaps 5 posts on the topic to say it just that well. I fully agree.
Imo, the entire discussion is not based opon whether or not Nate is a great player. We all know he is.
What matters here imo is whether or not NC wants to stay, and whether or not TD wants to pay him at least 40 million dollars. If either one of these factors go sour, we lose NC and I for one would hate to get nothing in return.
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What does that mean " a politics board on a football web site "? Does one talk of football on a politics board or politics on football board? I would be happy to keep that in mind and make you glad if only I knew what you had in mind. I am ever mindful that you are a Hall of Fame poster and i am honored by your attentitive mind. Mindfully yours....
What I really meant was while this board has had its ups and downs, we were able to survive many years without "my religion is better than yours" posts.
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Law was already a Cardinal when the scandal broke. He was not promoted. His action and inaction during and especially before the "scandal" are indefensible. The Church is an institution in which redemption is important which leads to apparent contradictions. God will judge Law and gratuitously I advise Law to prepare well. I am sure you would like to see Law drawn and quartered- and that thought does have appeal- but it is more timely to make restitution.
Let me surprise you ( and if you knew me well shock you) by saying that the Protestant Reformation was one of best things that ever happened to the RCC. I do not perceive any inherent defect in Catholic teaching that condones "diddlers". "Diddlers" seek out positions in which they come in contact with the diddleable, ergo, priesthood, boy scout leaders, coaches, teachers etc.. People of evil lust the appearance of good and then defile that goodness and relish with equal parts the admixture exquisite pain and erotic pleasure As child molesters attest it is in large measure the innocence destroyed that gives them the rush.
It is hoped that as a Protestant you have gotten over the Renaissance Popes, especially in light of JPII, and take a positive approach toward your own religion. Your concern for my religion is appreciated. Now leave it alone. Your Church needs your attention. Still your interest is flattering.
Just a friendly reminder that this is a politics board on a football website.
I for one would be glad if you would keep this in mind.
It would also be pretty good if you would just go away.
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That's part of the reason why he's worth MORE than a 9th pick in the first round. Clements is as good as it gets at CB. He is a great cover man, he plays the run like a SS and he makes plays and scores TD's. There isn't really another corner in the NFL who does all of these things as well as Clements.
You can entertain a trade though. Great teams can be built off of such trades. But it has to be a blockbuster, and just the 9th pick in this draft does not qualify. If you can't get all of that and more, just franchise Clements next offseason.
Badol, but if NC is franchised, the cap hit just for just him and Mike Williams will exceed 18 million dollars. We are talking about a CB and a Right Tackle.
Imo, this seems like too much money to be allocated to these positions. We are not talking about Peyton Manning and Julius Peppers here, nor Ogden, Pace, etc. Instead, we are looking at 18 mil. for a corner and the highest paid RT (I think) in the history of football.
Sorry, I just cant see the Franchise Tag happening with NC.
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The one thing every draftnik in the world agrees on: this year's draft is crappy. One thing many of us agree on: first round picks are barely ever worth the money you have to pay for them these days.
When you put those two together, then please tell me WHY in the name of all that is holy you would take one of the best corners around and unload him prematurely to move up to a draft position where there are no players of value to use at the price they will cost us? In what world does that even remotely make sense? You get another year out of Nate; a year in which he will likely elevate his game so some moronic team will pay him craploads of money the following year to be on a mediocre team.
THEN get your picks or trade for him. But now?
Man, this is right up with here with whatshisnames idea that we should just cut Travis Henry because he's a moronic pedophile cancer. I sure hope those of you who say 'let's consider the trade' don't have to make a living out of negotiating.
Sorry LA, but your posting is incorrect and perhaps short sighted.
>>>>>You get another year out of Nate; a year in which he will likely elevate his game so some moronic team will pay him craploads of money the following year to be on a mediocre team.
THEN get your picks or trade for him. But now?<<<<<
Next season NC will be a UFA. How do you expect the Bills to get compensation for him? With the Franchise Tag and a trade? TD is too smart for this. Did you see what happened to the Raiders. They tried it and now have to pay Woodson a GUARANTEED 10 mil for one season, after which he will once again be a UFA and make another killing.
Besides, how do any of us know that NC even wants to return to Buffalo? What makes you think that he doesn't want a warmer climate, more money etc? Also, do you think TD is apt to sign CBs to 40+ million dollar contracts? I do not.
My contention is that in all probability, NC is gone after this season. What drives you to ridicule the possibility of getting compensation for him, as opposed to nothing whatsoever?
Please also remember that a 9th pick in a draft can be traded for additional picks, and/or picks in 06.
As for your remarks about getting rid of Travis, none of us truly know how this story will unfold. We might even get lucky and get a seemingly sub-par lineman for him, but I have a feeling that you, not I will be disappointed when his worth comes to fruition in terms of a trade or yes, an outright release.
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>>>>>Let's take a look at how and why Travis Henry has been so critical to the success of this team<<<<<
If you consider the 0-4 start a "success," right on!
Travis, who gave us 2 years of good running stats and a poor performance at every other phase of football, has been a dismal failure.
Now, TD has one seemingly reluctant trading partner, who is willing to give us a LT that he cannot wait to unload. TD is right to want more. He will look silly if Shelton winds up not making the roster, as AKC suggested. As unlikely as this may seem, take notice of the fact that Jennings was scooped up in seconds for a huge price, and Shelton seems to attract barely a nibble. Odd for a quality LT, wouldn't you say?
The team has a FAR worse record with TH as a starter than the ever hated Drew Bledsoe, but dont let this stop you from cannonizing this underskilled misfit. We as Bills fans make a huge issue over this trade but from another angle, it looks like an insignifigant deal for two also-rans.
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So after posting that, are you ready to admit that the offers a team gets for a player is not a very good indication at all of the talent or worth of said player?
It has been said in different spots but there are many reasons, all working concurrently and to varying degrees, as to why Travis is not getting huge offers. People here (and I am sure GMs and coaches around the league) attach different weight to each of these, and put them in various orders, but they are many, including:
1. There is a glut of good running backs in the draft, in both the first couple rounds, and in the lower rounds.
2. There are several running backs available in trade around the league, some better than Henry that aren't going for a huge price.
3. Travis's contract, while on the surface quite cheap, in reality causes his value to go way down. You give too much away and you may only have him for one year. You sign him for a long term deal and not only are you giving up something valuable to get him but you may get screwed.
4. The Bills are either strongly or desperately trying to get rid of him and you think he can be had on the cheap.
5. He was hurt last year and has a history of injury problems.
6. He has excellent proven running skills but has obviously liabilities, is our offense the best offense for a player like this.
7. He has had a history of off the field problems and isn't the sharpest tool in the shed, which happens to be hanging on the wall next to another dull tool, his agent.
8. Player trades are relatively hard to pull off in the NFL because of the draft and FA and salary cap.
I dont know why you keep driving this home. Of course there are many factors which enter a trade.
The thing is, none of them will make Henry as good as you think he is, nor perhaps as bad as I think he is.
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Defend his conduct as you will.
Again, I do not place all the blame on the Clintons, but they certainly served to help set a tone.
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I just hope this isn't some kind of indicator of Henry's true trade value. I mean, look at some of the posts toward the end of last year and how people were blasting Travis here on the Wall. If there is any truth to what most were saying at that time, then how much value can he really have? Yeah, yeah, he had a couple 1,300 yard seasons and was a Pro Bowler once (due to Priest Holmes' injury). But, what if the events that happened later overshadow all of that? If that is the case, maybe his value isn't so high. That could also explain why there's not a line of GMs waiting to talk to Donahoe to pull the trigger on a deal for Travis. That would be awful, because it means we would either be stuck with a guy who doesn't want to be a backup or we'd have to take whatever we could get for him.
Speaking of trade value, on the NFL channel, Kirwan said that he thinks that Miami will fetch a 4th in 05 and a 3rd in 06 for Surtain. Looking at recent contracts, corners are a very hot commodity, yet this seemingly small price is said to be the most that the phish can get for a very good player.
In a year in which there seems to be a glut of good RBs in the draft, and names like James and Alexander out there, it is hard to believe that TH has much value, especially given his obvious limitations.
Once again, I am making zero predictions, but I will be flat out amazed if Green gives up Shelton AND swaps 2nd round picks.
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The phrase "vast right wing conspiracy" draws mocking groans and and skepticism from conservatives, but if any of them ever bothered to do a little research and background checks then maybe it wouldn't come as a surprise that there was a concerted effort to take Clinton down from the beginning.
That has little to do with this topic. I stand by my claim that the Clintons set a poor moral example. Monica was not planted by Gingrich, nor was Clinton forced into any sex acts.
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Good luck Cindy, and keep us posted.
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Cappucines, my favorite Italian place. S/W corner of 19th Street and 2nd Ave.
From the outside, it appears to be justy a small, non-descript Italian restaurant but people come from as far as Ct. to eat there.
They serve basically everything but are known for seafood.
Try the red snappers.
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Wishful thinking indeed, but I hope you are right.
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I dont know what is going to happen in terms of any trade, but 14 spots in round 2 is not such a paltry sum.
Remember, when the Bills drafted Clements (02?) they moved down 7 spots in round 1 and were compensated with a second round pick.
Again, I am making zero predictions.
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Of course I do not lay ALL of the blame on Clinton, and yes, teens were engaging in oral sex long before he was around.
That said, he did deny "having sex with that woman," thus implying that oral isn't sex. Hillary was worse. Remember the thumbs up and the "right wing conspiracy?"
Certainly you dont think that this was setting a good, honest nor safe example for our children, do you?
PFW mock eludes to Redskins trade in next few days
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Very good post. The truth is, TD has a tougher job than a GM with a wealthier owner. Snyder seems to get almost any player he wants despite the cap. As we have seen, it does not always translate into wins.
Imo, the debate does center around whether a team is willing to be non-nompetitive for a few years and THEN make a serious run, or if the goal is to always field a solid if unspectacular team. I consider the post dynasty Steelers a good example of the latter.
Something to consider is the fact that RW appears to need high attendance figures to make a profit, and Paul Allen for example does not even need to make a profit. Big difference. In recent years where the Bills were not playing well, the attendance reflected it, and again, the gate seems to matter a ton to RW.
Simon floated the possibility of starting a thread as to these two varying approaches of field a winning team. I hope he does, because it is an interesting topic, and Simon is an interesting guy.