Bill from NYC
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A simple question, how do we know these 4 are better than TD? I agree the GM of the PATS is better than TD. I ground that assertion in data and from where I look the PATS GM just won a superbowl. However, other than that what is the criteria to which we can judge these other GM's? Moreover, if each environment (salary cap, player development, coaching competency, a meddling owner, etc) in which they work is different that tends to compromise any measure of validity.
Seriously, I am not being facetious here, but when people want to judge things it can be pretty irritating to hear generalities and absolutes about performance thrown around like hard evidence.
I was a believer in DB, yet I had no problem seeing him go based on the hard data that he underperformed. His performance assessment (that he was a poor QB) passed every test of validity I could think of (construct, face, criterion, concurrent, convergent, and predictive) as such I agree......let him go.
However, assesssing a GM is a whole different ball game. It is either simple (winning a superbowl) or complex (measures you and I do not even know exist).
I prefer to keep assessing a GM simple. As such, the only good ones are the one's that win a superbowl (sorry Polian).
There is no data or evidence to for sure indicate there are 4 better GM's out there better than TD (unless you uncover those that have guided a team to a SB victory).
As a result, I return to my question what are you basing the performance on? Once that is answered, there will be no reason to continue throwing the verbal "slings" that have been occuring in this thread.
Debate is good if there is a purpose. If not, it is counterproductive.
IM, just to give you a more accurate picture of what I said, the question was more along the lines of who was more productive, or who did a better job.
I was not stating that the 4 men I mentioned are "better" than TD. Each operate under different owner, and have different wallets from which to work. Also, they all started from a different ground zero if you will.
Certainly you see the difference.
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I hope he leaves the steelers. Just watch what happens as their offensive line thins out.
I know it is FAR less than a bold statement, but their 15-1 days are OVER!
Oh, and the chink in the NE armour is finally here. I give that franchise a literal ton of respect, but they will NOT reach the superbowl in 06.
The AFC is going to be one wild conference this season.
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Outside of the Bills, they were my favorite team to watch. Fouts playing catch with Charlie Joiner,Wes Chandler and John Jefferson. Kellen Winslow at TE. Muncie was a great talent and couldn't get off the drugs.
I remember the legendary Jerry McGee writing that Coryell had no interest in the Defense and left that up to his asst. coaches. Reminds me of Spurrier. The Chargers would always give up 31-35 points a game.
Ah Mark, how few of us here probably remember JJ Jefferson! He had it ALL!
I think that if he had his head on straight, he could have been up there with Jerry Rice, etc. Him and Westbrook from the Redskins. What a waste.
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Is he now near the bottom, or in the bottom third?
I know wealth does not necessarily translate into wins (Just ask Paul Allen). But does Mr. Wilson have 16 million dollars or so that he would be willing to give to Nate Clements as a signing bonus if he wanted to keep him?
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Can't argue with those picks. I hope someone doesn't say Polian. He brings in a Defensive minded Coach and finishes in the bottom 5 in Defense. Has a star DE in Freeney and a very good MLB in Peterson. The other 9 guys are subpar. Reminds me of the Air Coryell San Diego Chargers of the '70's and '80's. Exciting on Offense and could never reach the big dance because they never had a solid D. A good defense beat them every time. Has not done a good job of balancing the cap whatsover ( Manning-34.5 Mil bonus..absurd ) .
Depite the talent of Manning, Harrison, etc., I am barely able to watch the Colts, with Manning barking all of those signals at the line.
Btw, the old Chargers/Colts was a great analogy. Imagine how great that offense would have been if Muncie was not an insane drug user? If MaGahee's knee holds up, he will be a similar talent imo.
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Nice try. You didn't answer my questions. Basically, who is a better GM over the past 4 years. Give details, incl specific moves, and overall general philosophy. You didn't do that. You just bitched a bit more, which is useless. You can B word all you want, but only morons complain without attempting to balance bad moves with good. I haven't seen you try that.
So read my post again, and at least attempt to name me 4 GMs who have done a better job. I expect details of specific moves, and general philosophy. If you can't do that, explain why you can't, or else every argument you lay out makes you look like an idiot.
Todd, I am fairly satisfied with TD, but 4 GMs?
1) Fox, or whoever it is at Carolina
2) NE
3) Andy Reid
4) Pitt.
That was pretty quick, huh?
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Good god, you are hoping for a line with four changes on it from last year......the C to RT did a solid job for most of last year as they got used to each other and benefitted from having McNally around, it is bad enough we have to revamp the left side with (hopefully) two new starters but to mess with almost the whole line seems insane.
Keep C-RG-RT the way it is, plus in a couple of new bodies on the left side, and hopefully next year our line play will be sufficient (for the first time since ????).
I agree BBF. Teague would probably be the smallest RT in the league. His size and agility suit him better for OC or LT.
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Not defending JP at all, Bill. Still I don't keep trying to tell my daughter "'you don't deserve a chance, since you'll probably fail " everyday either. Call me crazy. It's not in my person.
Begs the question why ? Mularkey explained he wanted a lot more from that position and wanted the switch. Ask him. I found it humorous in an earlier posting that a DB supporter deferred credit away from Big Ben R. for the Steelers success. Said the Steelers won due to the Running game, the D etc. Stated you couldn't rely on Big Ben to win a game for you. ( These are comments regarding a Rookie, mind you )
Yet these same observations about 11 year Vet DB were always shouted down. LOL !
I also think there were those personal (Pittsburgh) issues as well.
As for the Steelers, Big Ben DID win some games, but imo, nothing takes the place of a strong, deep offensive line. This was (again, imo) the key to the Steelers success. That is why qbs named Williams and Rypien have superbowl rings, or so I see it.
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No argument whatsover on having doubts. But Bledsoe was a QB that Mularkey and Co. wanted OFF the roster. There is little doubt about it. As for handing the QB job to an unproven high draft pick, that's been done hundreds of times in NFL history. Hell, the Bills have done so with Richie Lucus, James Harris, Dennis Shaw, Joe Ferguson, Todd Collins. Kelly came from the USFL and was handed the job, without any NFL experience, if you wish to get technical.
In the Cap age, this is even more likely to happen. John Kitna went to the Pro Bowl with Cinci, only to be handed a clipboard behind Carson Palmer in 2004.
JP will get yanked in a heartbeat if he's completely befuddled and losing us games. The Bills believe Holcomb will make good decisions and keep us in the game. (Unlike Bledsoe, who could blow up many a game with galling turnovers) Holcomb will be 32 come the 2005 season and has around 3,800 yards for his entire career. If he was starting material, he would have kept his job in Cleveland. JP is raw but has 3 times the athletic ability Holcomb has. I'll defer to the coaching staff, especially Wyche (who developed Joe Montana as the San Fran QB coach under Walsh and also Boomer Esiason in Cinci. ).
>>>>No argument whatsover on having doubts. But Bledsoe was a QB that Mularkey and Co. wanted OFF the roster.<<<<
This is completely true, but it begs the question, "WHY?"
Imo, TD and MM, both Pittsburgh guys, viewed the season ender with the Steelers as Norwood's miss, or Buckner's error. Methinks there were some personal issues floating around.
That said, this is history. They made their decision, and all we can do is hope the best for JP.
As for the stats of KH, do you think they matter much? He, like Kitna, was stuck behind the 1st pick of a draft, and he hurt his shoulder. You were not impressed one iota by DB's gaudy stats? Why make an issue of stats wrt KH?
Defending our child prodigy are we?
I'm excited about the upcoming season, since I believe the QB position has improved with JP and Holcomb on the roster. I'm a glass half full kind of person and aware of all the revisionist history of football.
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1) After coming into camp as a beached whale last season, he DID pick up his game.
2) His play declined drastically when CV was not in there.
3) I do not understand why people think, from a football standpoint, that he can play LT. When Big Mike gets beat, it is usually by speed rushers. JP has thrown 5 passes. Do you really want MW on his blindside? I do not.
4) While is cap number IS obscene, a true pro bowl season would serve to ease the pain. He has not approached this yet. I hope he cares.
5) There is ZERO reason for Big Mike to renegitiate his deal. Looking at what MacKenzie (RT) got from the Giants, MW probably would not even mind being cut. Less than stellar play at times notwithstanding, he would command a signing bonus BIGGER THAN his 9 mil. cap hit.
6) If he does not produce in a big way this season, #5 will rapidly change. He could be cut after 06/01/06 and it would not hurt the Bills very much.
In summary, this imo is the do or die year so to speak for MW as far as the Bills are concerned. If he steps up to a level of greatness at RT (certainly possible), his cap figure, although high, will be easier to live with, considering the money that other RTs are getting. They ARE catching up.
In 05, he will have CV next to him and will not be saddled with Travis Henry to miss blitzers and make him look bad.
I am hopeful that MW will finally step up and give us a complete season of effort and hard work, and be a pro-bowl RT, which is a great thing for any football team to have.
Cautiously hopeful.
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>>>First, I would trade him and Travis Henry to Arizona for L.J. Shelton and their 1st round pick (#8) in this year's draft.<<<
Stop there and forget Woodson.
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I think the Coles deal really puts them up against it cap wise.
Honestly, I don't think the Bills have interest in Law either. I would redo and extend Nate right now. Something like $14 M SB and $37 Million for 6 years.... The guy is a perennial pro bowler in the making (this past year begins the streak) and this is market value--if we structure it like this...I am still pissed about the Jacksonville play--but he is a stud corner who likes Buffalo--just pay him.
Cap hits in parenthesis
05 750K ($2.08M--about $2.5 M in cap savings this year)
06 $1.25 M ($2.55M)
07 $4 M ($5.33M)
08 $5 M ($6.33M)
09 $5.5 M ($6.83 M)
10 $6.5 M ($7.83M)
This is $1 M More contract value and $1M in gauranteed money than Ken Lucas's contract with the Panthers...
Good job on those numbers, and good post! The problem is, I doubt NC would accept it. Smoot wants much more, but hey, you never know.
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I am truly surprised at how many people are suggesting the Mike Williams to LT position switch... I mean, what other LT in the NFL carries as much weight as MW? Is anyone within 20 lbs? I think MW would get JP killed at LT by RDE's that do a beep-beep routine right around his fat ass.
Agreed. I do not see him as even close to being agile enough to play LT.
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Perhaps not, but I am going to go out on a limb here and state that if these guys were not Buffalo Bills last season, we very well might have suffered another loss. Same could be said for Stamer, Crowell and Hagan (sic?).
I paid more attention to kick coverage in 04 than ever before, or at least since the days of Pike/Tasker. These guys were excellent.
I know that the cap mandates some ugly decisions, but it would be a pity to lose these guys. I just dont know how easily replaceable they would be on STs.
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I hope that he stays on with the Bills for a LONG time. This is one cool dude!
Do you think that he put on a coat this winter?
You are THE man Coach K!!! -
I'm not as convinced that it was a good deal for the Bills. $23M over 5 years is a lot of money, especially for the third best starter on the Bills defensive line (well, now he's the 2nd best). Schobel is a little better than average, but he does not command double teams and is not someone I think opposing teams really worry much about.
I think that it was a great signing, and that AS, had he waited, would have received approx. 7-10 million dollars more. Not because he is great. Jonas Jennings isn't great either, nor is MacKenzie (sic) from the jests, and these guys just got staggering bonuses.
I think that the Bills DEs will do a bit more stunting this year. It may sound crazy, but SA and PW were SOOO big that there was often no space for a DE to go inside.
AS also played better vs. the run last year, and due to his great speed, was always good in pursuits.In summary, is AS great? No. Is he a bargain at today's prices? I think so.
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Al Sharpton vs. Freedom of Speech
in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
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Let's see.....Sharpton is calling on the FCC to ban song lyrics he does not like. Liberal professors penalize students on college campuses if they speak up as conservatives.
Not to be outdone, repubs are in a tizzy about Howard Stern, and are contemplating regulation of satellite radio and premium cable tv.
No matter which side of the aisle you are on, one truly HAS to give credit to politicians for diverting the masses to issues that mean little to nothing!
The deficit is rising. Cities are crumbling. Solution? No smoking in bars, no freedom of speech and censor and fine Howard Stern!
I am glad I can come here and vent because frankly, it is a hopeless case. It was bad enough with the straight-laced old fogeys, and the holier than thou liberal yuppies, but now Reverend Sharpton has joined the fold!
A friggin mess indeed!
What a "Liberal!"