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Nice try with your neurons and resorbtions and oxygen content. You didn’t mention anything about a bell getting rung, sawbones. What’s your name Pretond Uradoc, MD? (Thanks for the scoop-my son was concussed in HS, scary time.)

He gets a pass for making a call on a penalty on something he clearly could not see because it never occurred? In other words, he made it up? Geesh that’s the type of activity that would have me wondering if Vegas really was controlling the game.

Lets just agree it has happened 6 times over your four decades, 3 were in college games, 2 occurred in the pros and #6 was yesterday. Everyone wins, mostly me because I'm working myself into a frenzy and Dave, you're slowing me the %$#@ down!

I never said it was unheard of, I understand it's not a "free play", I just don't see it as a common outcome. Or a regular outcome of that play. You said you've seen it a number of times, I just wondered how often you have seen it? Once a weekend for 10 years? 40 times over the course of the year? Once every 2 years? Doesn't really matter anyway, but I try to learn after the emotion of the game has settled.

Of course. It would be egregious to deliver a helmet to helmet hit, to throw a chop block, or rough the passer simply because the player was offside. Just using common sense, I'd assume holding occurs with some regularity in those situations, and I think it's an uncommon result to that sort of play. Dave McBride has seen it with some regularity, so be it. Simply making a point, but some view the officials as having run an A+ game. I do not. Is the number 3 over the years, or 56? The holding call variety.

Another overly complex rule that is far too subjective. Ref throws a flag, ref saw something that was a penalty. Conference ensues, we can only presume a debate about the catchability of the ball ensues where the officials considere the trajectory of the ball and speed/lack thereof of receiver, with each official with a diff vantage point. The only thing that was certain was the flag was thrown after the receiver was grabbed. Now, if you want to review these plays with the video footage and determine a catchable ball of not, well that's alway an option. On this officiating note, btw, I cannot recall a time when an obv Offside was offset by a holding call. Does the lineman surrender the pass rush and allow the QB to be hit given that the defensive player got a major jump on the ball?

Why after reading this do I want pasta for dinner?

I think they know, I think they protect the brand above all else, and the brand wants nothing to do with widespread condemnation of players out causing concussions in the era of CTE. Brady is the one of the marquis faces of the brand, thus injury to him is a very bad thing for the league. Fans love him, or hate him, but he draws the crowd. When all is said and done, a JA, Cam Newton or Barnett is disposable, Brady or Brees absolutely not.

Well you're crazy in the sense that you're disregarding the cause of the injury and placing it on the shoulders of the guy who was hit. Is there a football fan or players left that doesn't know about the helmet to helmet rule? The entire game is played out without a similar occurrence, yet occurs when the opportunity presents itself. The Pat's are widely and correctly acknowledged for incredible attention to detail when preparing for games. They know the tendencies of the players and are coached accordingly. "Do your job" is the mantra. No need to rehash the past here, but the ship sailed a long time ago on giving the Pats the benefit of the doubt. Imo they are coached up to and including this sort of thing. When Gronkowski assaulted Tre White, where was the team punishment? Heck, going back to Wilfork blowing out Losman's knee with an elbow? And so on. As a fan I'd like to see JA slide. However, the context of the game matters. You're down 6 due in large part to your performance, you're certainly not getting help from the officials (flags thrown and picked up om def holding when approaching the red zone, illegal formations/attack on special teams, review on int being questioned by a former official, and eventually grounding not being grounding when its grounding), you're 23 and you put it all on your back. Bad choice to be sure, but the byproduct of NOT sliding is not assumed to be a clear helmet to helmet hit. Similarly, under pressure, one would not assume that scrambling to avoid a sack would result in a helmet to helmet hit, a dive at the knees or a head slap. You're correct that it is naive to think a defensive player on the other side won't target the head. I don't think the same sort of scenario would have played out had he not scrambled. I'm 50/50 on whether he would have taken the shot to the head if he slid. I'd like to think no, but then again the rule on helmet to helmet is pretty well established and yet it happened in a big way. I'd consider this a crime of opportunity.

Now, this really makes no sense. Why have a rule in place for unsportsmanlike conduct if it's acceptable lay a helmet-to-helmet hit on someone? Your boy went full Jack Tatum on the guy being tackled and you're blaming the victim.

Incomplete. In in spite of the bad day, the Bills were within 6 in the 4th when he does what many QBs can/will not do. He scrambles for a first down to try and move the chains. At home, (almost inconceivably) a close game, fighting to the end. If he doesn’t take the shot to the head, goes on to score and the Bills pull out the upset, he gets the benefit of the curve and his grade is no longer an F. It might be a D, but a D with a W is better than an F and knocked out of the game. And he didn’t “lose the game”, even taking your word you are the biggest homer. 10-10 absent the ST punt. 17-16 if Barkley leads them to a TD. Other players CAN do things to help the team. A broken tackle. A linemen opening a hole. A dB back picking off the other Qb. A forced fumble on a run. A return for a TD. Coaching decisions to go for the 3 instead of 6. Missed field goal. In fact, SH makes the first kick, gives us the benefit of settling for 3 on the first Barkley drive, and we’re playing for the win on the last drive. Jesus, I’ve convinced myself it’s a conspiracy from the inside out!! (But absolutely agree he played poorly.)

We have found the jinx!

The analyst thinks there is a place in today’s NFL for flagrant helmet to helmet hits? He sounds great.

Actually times haven’t changed that much at all. Guys like Alonzo, Burfict, Gronkowski and this scumbag today continue to head hunt and what’s the impact? 15 yards and maybe few bucks relative to earnings? Some guys just want to injure other players, and for all the league posturing on making the game safer, the league saw this play as a borderline hit. According to some of the guys who play the game, the rules slide one way or the other on shots like this. Player safety is vitally important for for some players.

Humility now, ***** that’s easy. When you win, you’ll be insufferable. Probably a little crazy, too, like Joaquin Phoenix, though I think that’s in part because his parents saddles him a hard pronounce while naming his brother River. “Skye, mom, why didn’t you just go with Skye??”

I have to admit ths thread got dicey. I went back about 10 hours and found out: 1. Tibs was in rare form. He posted a series of Tibseaque thoughts, but agreed with a few points raised by Das Rhino and made me laugh with a comment about being buried in right wing tweets. That was funny. I give Tibs an A, but as he is a liberal I must drop his grade to an F because the A represents American Exceptionalism and he ain't down with that. 2. Transplant appeared to be in emotional free fall during one post. I feel badly because while there are places to go for emotional support during those times (Emotional Assistance 800 numbers, Facebook and pretty much any Alyssa Milano tweet), this isn't the place. I gave him an A because I wanted him to feel better about himself. 3. Crayola claimed to be an attorney for a bigly law firm, and I believe him as he spent the next 200 threads debating hearsay and boring me to shmitherenes. I gave him an A as well, fearful that if I give him his actual grade of F, he would commence litigation for defamation of character. 4. Gary Busey posted often and apparently continues to recover from the doink to the head suffered in a motorcycle accident sustained while playing Mr. Joshua with Mel Gibson and Danny Glover in Lethal Weapon. I give him an F for content, but upgraded him to an A for brutality when torturing Mr. Gibson with a battery charger and nipple clips in the movie. 5. DC Tom has abandoned idiot for nitwit. I'm not sure how I feel about this, so I have given him an incomplete grade. 6. DR received a nomination for an Emmy. Awesome!

I always thought it was spelled "knit wits". I'll use it in a sentence: "Joe Biden is as dumb as those things you knit wit.".

Honestly, results matter. Like JA, Mayfield is not a finished product. We got your classic NFL hype after Mayfield came in last year and won games. They added weapons, more hype. He hasn't delivered yet, so in that sense he is overrated. He may end up winning 5 SBs but who knows? They may end up running the table this year, or catch fire late and gets on a roll. For now, he is what he is.

I feel dirty saying this but both are correct. They're both right different.

Isn't that the America we live in?

The chalk line meme is hysterical.

I think you’re confusing ordinary, thoughtful, and nuanced Americans concerned with corruption at the highest levels of our government with “DEEP STATE, THE MOVIE” starring Mark Ruffalo, Leonardo DiCaprio and Charlize Theron as Hillary Clinton.

You stole my Part Deux, you thieving b*stard! ?

All I know is I’m doing my part. I don’t use a traditional garbage company to pick up my recyclables due to their reliance on fossil fuel. I toss all my empty Diet Mountain Dew bottles along the side of the road, and just the other day saw a guy on a bike stop to pick them up. I chastised him for using a Hefty cinch sack and reminded him that paper is much more environmentally friendly. I live my truth.

Before it’s closed down...I just gotta know...did she make it? The old lady—is she ok?