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"Sorry, my bad."??? What's this all about? Are you sick?

I'm envisioning 700 old guys wandering back into the office, telling all the kids how things used to be back in the day, and sharing their wisdom on how much things have changed for the worse. This is always followed by the awkward silence when everyone involved realizes that it's sad to be unable to let go, to relive the glory days that weren't all that glorious, and the stark realization that in most cases a "former federal prosecutor" is best described as just another guy with an opinion.

Bob, it's the old adage "It's not your innocence, it's that you had the audacity to fight back" that comes to mind here. I think most observers who follow this sort of thing would say you never, ever volunteer anything, and you never assume that just because you're innocent that your political enemies won't try to gut you like a fish. The reality is that that no one would cooperate, innocent or guilty. You don't prove your innocence by being submissive to your enemy. I am 100% on board with executive privilege and declining to voluntarily assist the jackals withh anything. F 'em.

I live in the Albany area and was downtown last summer. While waiting for my daughter to finish a meeting, I sat in front of the Capitol building in the photo from the article on a nice sunny day. I wanted to head up the front steps of that incredibly beautiful building just to walk the path that so many famous Americans had tread previously, unfortunately, there were barricades up front preventing ordinary citizens like me from doing so. No notes, no apparent construction, just a cold steel barrier and quite a few cops around the area. I did wonder what might happen if I jumped the...let's call it a wall...and made my way to the top. Would law enforcement come and harass me, maybe ask me for my...let's call them papers? Would good old Andy Cuomo intervene on my behalf? I decided not not to risk it. I'm not Andy's type of NYer. Fair enough, but when Cuomo first broke the news of the decrease in revenue, he sounded troubled by it. I'm not one to suggest he's scared or panicking, but he most definitely sounded unsettled. for all their reassurance, nearly $4bill is a damn chunk of money they most definitely need to keep this little 3 Card Monty game rolling.

Well, we have Trump as a Russian plant with no evidence, Kavanaugh as the conductor on a high school r train, and a MSM that seems perfectly comfortable perpetuating whatever narrative the dems spin. No allegation is too low, no report too unsavory. My bet is no, it's not going to end, and it's going to get worse. I have to tell you, it really creeps me out to even type the train comment. It's nothing to laugh about, and I'd have never believed a political party would have tried to run with something that vile (and so callous where actual victims are concerned) if I hadn't seen it happen.

It's quite a world the dems live in. Attempt to brand a president a traitor to the country, use media sources to spread disinformation, work to assign a SC to perpetuate the fraud, and watch it all evaporate when the only traitors to be found are members of their own cabal. Then, feign outrage over the thought crimes and trot out some ridiculous statement about some nameless insiders purporting to be outraged over charges that would never pass muster. Kavanaugh hearing where a good and decent public servant is torn to shreds. Trump, a less good and less decent man is branded a traitor based on nothing more than conjecture and political animus. I am really struggling to think how the old school dems with standards could support these leftists. I know many will, but what's the next new low for them--public hangings?

Excellent point Mr. Foxx.

True. We are not a few months removed from bathing the freedom tower in pink to celebrate the end of human life. Forget the right to choose and whatever side you're on, is the termination of the life of a full term child for whatever reason cause for joy, celebration and spending the money to pink up a skyscraper? I hope they have overplayed their hand as well. NBC did a story this am about the job numbers and trumps job approval numbers "remaining level". It took a bit but the reporter indicated this all started during the Obama presidency. She knew that, but was unable to fit in 2 years of trashing the president for being a spy, the repatriation. of $$$ due to reduction in capital gains tax, the mainstream tax cuts, deregulation or the high profile CEOs who have credited Trump policies with sparking growth. It doesn't get ugly for either party until the dem candidate that best communicates how sh6tty America and Americans are, how we're speeding toward a totalitarian regime and how the only way to save us from ourselves is to return to a morose and depressing existence lead by BarryJoe Banders. I am confident that Trump will push back at the narrative, appeal to the common sense of people who are better off than they were, and punch back at anyone who punches him first. That alone is a step in the right direction. Add in some good news about justice prevailing against the russian narrative cretins, who knows.

Plenz- not arguing the lie thing because it's unfounded, or because you're tired of talking about it? i agree with you on your characterization of the article as it relates to Mueller's alleged intent. I try to remember that much of reporting, or even opinion-based analysis deals with characterizations, innuendo and speculation. I'm not always successful. I enjoyed the read, it fits what seems to make sense to me. I do find it amusing that Mueller and his team would suddenly worry about the optics of it all given his team's world class leak machine feeding the press at every juncture. 2+ years of stony silence punctuated by leaks while the country is ripping at the seams but now we have a problem?

Why is Anderson Cooper interviewing Rachel Maddow? What a world.

You have more faith in BO than I do. Other than believing his overlords were pulling strings and he was simply a puppet in all this, I can see no logical path to anything othe than BO being deeply involved in this. His arrogance and belief in his vision alone lead me to this conclusion. I'm all for revelation, public shaming and moving on so long as his co-conspirators see some variation of whatever justice fat cats get in DC. Still, you'll have so many uninformed and casually complicit American voters seeing this all as no big deal.

you did Nair? That's the %#*#ing angel dust of hair removal products!!! You're crazy man, crazy!

I answered the question in my first post, I think you just didn't like the answer. I'll recap this way. The record is clear, and unlike a few months back, we have closure. You see, it would seem, the totality of what happened----the use of the intelligence agencies to investigate, the sudden dismal of Russian diplomats as Obama skulked out of office, spying on Americans, the pressuring of witnesses, the SC directive, the reliance on a disgraced foreign operative and his absurdly lurid tales of fantasy, the comey leaks--all of it as some sort of Eagle Scout investigation for the greater good. A necessary step to safeguard Americans. That makes no sense to me, especially in light of the goose eggs they came up with. I ask you--these men and women of good will--how did they miss so badly? How could the best of the best run all these issues up the flagpole, discuss options, pursue a course of action and miss so badly on the outcome? I mean you saw it all with clarity, and you're sitting in a damn lighthouse on Lake Huron warning boats to stay off the rocks. They--the people at the top, were so sure trump was a putinite that they pulled out every stop to save us from ruin and it turns out they just made an oopsie? I'll acknowledge it could have played out that way if you'll acknowledge that at mid50s and a buck70 I still have a shot to get picked up as a receiver (I'd be a #3 as I lack an explosive twitch off the line, have trouble tracking the football due to issues with depth perception and my hands are suspect) by the Bills. Absent the co-conspirators admitting to wrongdoing, or Our President Trump fessing up to being a junior cosmonaut, why go around in circles on it? The fact is given all we already know, NBC news could air a grainy videotape of all the dirty birds copping to their malfeasance and more than likely you would still maintain the position that this was the doj's finest hour--they cleared trump! So so why bother? I think the OJ jury analogy makes the most sense for me to try and understand you. We can write it off to my limitations as a deep thinker, unable to see the purity in the deeds of the unsung heros of fisa abuse, beurocrats gone wild and the like. Thank you sir, but I lack the patience to even copy and paste a reply. I can accept Bob feels as he does, I just don't see much value in going over things again. Plus my commute is 3 miles, two lights and I'm home. Barely enough time for my phone to synchronize with my car let alone voice to text.

Forget the offense--which sounds innovative to be sure. Why would anyone be offended by jimbo's wunderlic??

Less of a hill, more of a crumbling speed bump in a long closed strip mall outside of Omaha.

Roberto Duran...no mas! The record is clear. It's been debated to death and back again. I appreciate your acknowledgment that there may have been "texts and suspicious connections", and if that's all you see, why bother? I will say this, and it's where I started this journey way back when. Had the Democrat study group formulated a plan to out djt as a Russian asset in early 2016, and had they been successful in producing evidence that revealed that djt ans his people were actually Russian assets with treason on their collective mind, I would have regretted the choice I made to vote for him to begin with. I would have stood shoulder to shoulder with you, Bob of Michigan, and called for his head on a stick. I'm an American first my friend. That did not happen. It didn't come close to happening, because it didn't happen. It was a grand lie. On the flip side, I can't grasp how folks on your side accept this preposterous episode of political skulduggery as just another day at the office. I understood it, somewhat, as it was playing out because emotions run high. But now, I see similarities between folks who believe as you do and the jurors in the OJ murder trial did when he was acquitted--sometimes people rationalize they gotta let the bad guys do their thing for the greater good. To me, that's sad, and dangerous because when there are no rules, everyone figures they best get theirs in before the enemy gets there first. We're never at the end of anything, we're just at the beginning of the next thing.

I'm presuming you're dining remotely via GoToLiberalMeeting.com to cut down on greenhouse gas emissions, and that the fare will be a plant-based Kobe vegansteak and you'll be drinking non-bottled water from the tap? The carbon footprint of your average winery is massive--but you know that. Oh, and ask Joe where he gets his hair done. Those hilites look very natural on a 64 year old fella.

Bob, this coordinated talking point is all the rage on cable and network coverage of the hearing. It's the heir apparent to "the President's fixxer", a word made up paint someone in an unflattering light. It meant nothing but when repeated breathlessly and relentlessly sounds like a big deal. I used to watch Ray Donovan on Showtime. Now that guy is a fixer. Got a body to get rid of? Ray gets it gone. Need to rough up a group of ***** stealers targeting pro athletes for extortion? Hell's yeah you call Ray. Barr is apparently not the enemy of the president who appointed him. This should come as no surprise to anyone. That he allowed Mueller to complete his investigation unencumbered proved he most certainly was not Trump's Roy Cohn.

So we agree on much, and DR has done The Lord's work in converting yet another heathen. I don't think corrupt politicians/law enforcement covers it when it's an attempt to overthrow an election on the level this occurred but I'm prone to hyperbole.

Plenz--we won't agree on jobs or all the rest, and that's fine. I was really more int in your feedback on my deep strap question. I see only 2 explanationa and both stink.

A family member told me one day "Its not about the wild things he says, it's about the truth he speaks.". Border security. NATO. Russian investigation is bs. Obama spying. The demise of the American economy was greatly exaggerated. DOJ corruption. Socialism eventually equals Venezuela today. Russian sanctions. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. American exceptionalism. As for the deep state, please humor me one more time. I see the DOJ and IC community targeting Trump, under the leadeship of Obama, while not notifying Trump of the witc---investigation in one of two ways: They really thought DJT was a Russian asset and that key members of his inner circle were Russian assets as well. They considered options, all on the table, and plowed ahead to save the American people from DJT and they were wrong across the board. That speaks to incompetence. Option 2: it was a coup attempt. In option one, they are bumbling fools, and that's pretty frightening. They targeted the wrong guy, they tripped over their own d××××,and all the dem pols were caught up up in the incompetence. I discard that because they all continue to cling to the narrative. Option 2 seems much more likely. That =deep state or whatever else you want to call it. Bad people doing bad things. Treasonous dirtbags. Whatever. What am I missing from your perspective?

I got that one as I'm a big thinker. ?

But it's not abundantly clear, and the interpretation that he lied under oath is just that--an interpretation based on subject reasoning on a question that was asked and answered. In fact, its a partisan political interpretation at that. As for Trump and the normalization of little white lies, I'm always struck by this sort of statement. The flip side of this argument is that prior presidents never told little white lies (or big fat whoppers) and it is abundantly clear that that is simply not true. I understand liking someone else's lies better than another's, but this argument has zero legs. And in a room full of lawyers, 100% of the people in that room know the bolded text to be true. It's all the folks out in America they are trying to manipulate with choreographed questions, Emmy-worthy performances revealing contempt, exasperation, and incredulity.

As always thanks for replying. I was sincere in asking if you knew who asked the question under oath on 4/9 (I said 4/8 earlier) so I could understand what it is that was so clear to you. I'm not interested in some writers recap, or schumer pelosi or graham telling me what they think, I wanted to hear the question as asked, the context and his reply. as I was typing, I read GGs reply and he succinctly summarized the challenge with your position. , I find the entirety of those hearings grotesque regardless of the person being interrogated. The truth is generally irrelevant, it's a carefully choreographed freak show with one group of losers trying to professionally kneecap someone who often does not deserve it. To hear these bottom feeders reference their "colleague" or "my friend from California" makes it seedier still. In this particular case, seeing the pack of scumbags who missed wildly on the collusion issue when the entire weight of the doj was brought down on trump try to catch the ag in some bullsh3t perjury trap is pathetic.

Barr said the letter is "snitty"? I admit to not knowing that reference, it was during testimony on 4/8? I'd like to cue it up...who was he responding to? I think I give him a pass for using a word like snitty in that sort of setting. It sounds dirty. But to be clear, you see Barr's answer, taken in the context of an interrogation by his political enemies on April 8, to be an outright lie that should result in his immediate dismissal from office and which created a permanent stain on his reputation? I'm sort of summarizing the senator from hawaii's 7 minute diatribe as I understood it.