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Yeah, @redtail hawk oooooof, “no one took it seriously”. Probably the most out of touch statement I’ve read here, bar none, all things considered.

I think Stephen King is a great writer, or was at one time. When I read The Stand in college…man, I couldn’t tear myself away. This guy strikes me as similar to TC, Maddow etc with a different method of delivery. I’d think some of his facts are accurate, some not so much, and at the end of the day, it’s a buyer beware scenario with a healthy dose of make believe mixed in. It is an interesting debate though, that the segment of the population historically represented as financially disenfranchised, and at risk financially and physically is actually thriving and doing quite well. This takes us back to misinformation, lies and manipulation of the American voter, it would seem (again) by dem leadership constantly adopting the rich v poor argument but misrepresenting the players? Perhaps the student loan buyout should be shifted and reimagined for folks in real need, not those really in need of not wanting to pay off their loan, or needing a new iPhone or way to pay off their mortgage. The author uses the term “canard”, and it seems to fit, though not in the manner suggested.

#word B. I appreciate the links.

You said “majority”, Slickster, not many. I’m less concerned about TC (or Cuomo or Lemon) than I am by lies and misinformation spread by politicians. Schiff lied through his teeth, Warren suggested that the election was in peril (and imo, set the stage for the stolen election claim that would have followed by Dems had Trump won), and the entire narrative by Ds that Trump was not a legitimately elected president or committed treason. I think those people—and if you wish, Trump and stolen election claims—-cause more confusion and problems than any TV host could hope to. But…that’s the game. Had more Dems been outraged by the absurd Russia game, pushed back when that was sad saga ended, and realized how they got played, maybe I’d feel differently. @B-Man exists in all his glory!

Well, I reject your declaration that what he has said and/or implied has “…misinformed…a majority of Rs.”. That’s your characterization, not mine. As for his actions specifically, it’s hard for me to get beyond “this is how the game is played” when this sort of thing sets the table for all that follows. In that regard, I’m apathetic. It happens. Politicians do it. Talking heads do it. The world spins. https://www.warren.senate.gov/oversight/letters/warren-klobuchar-wyden-and-pocan-investigate-vulnerabilities-and-shortcomings-of-election-technology-industry-with-ties-to-private-equity

I was taught the adage, and try to live by it. However, I was also taught to apply reasoned analysis to a scenario and make informed decisions on matters important to me. My opinion of Tucker Carlson’s actions is that they are consistent with the type of work he does, the format of his show and in keeping with similar forms of entertainment. There are times he accurately portrays facts, times he tells part of the story but leaves out other factual information, and that he operates on a for-profit model. People like that sort of thing, one side or the other, so it’s popular today. I often feel the very same way about other media outlets, and would love to get to a time when pure news was pure news. Tucker Carlson…Rachel Maddow…Laura Ingram…Chris Cuomo are certainly more flamboyant than a Lester Holt, but that’s the format. I don’t watch TC or any others with any regularity, I find negativity drags me down.

Sure. Chris Cuomo says hey. 🤣

One of my favorite Trump moments was early on in his run to the WH when Savannah Guthrie quizzed him on his poor polling numbers citing XYZ polling data. Trump stopped her and told her that the NBC polling data showed him in the lead, and he called her out for ignoring that poll. She became flustered and as I recall he told her that’s why people don’t trust the news. The only missing element was it was a phone interview, but it was good television. Nikki Haley has an uphill battle, and msm outlets like The Today Show are on the hill.

Of course they did. There is a mountain of evidence detailing exactly what happened, but in spite of that, the election denier-deniers are perfectly comfortable ignoring it. The "Stolen election" claims followed the previous election model formulated by democrats and their "Illegitimate Election" strategy. We can look back farther various and sundry ways dems pitched stolen elections, sought to use the electors to derail a vote, spoke of widespread voter disenfranchisement that resulted in illegitimate elections, and on and on. *See @redtail hawkabove for "...but I don't want to talk about that..'

You’re going to have to do it. As BillSy said, people are trying to distant themselves.

Yeah, I’d agree with that. I suppose it was possible he was on the tail end of his problems and this turn of events just knocked the $&$@s off his family and handlers, but that seems highly unlikely. As unlikely I’d say, as classified documents being found in Joe Biden’s possession after the Swat raid on the Trump home. As unlikely, I’d suggest, as Putin waiting until Biden was in office to launch his invasion into Ukraine. Then again, maybe the doctor’s treating him suggested the best therapy for post-massive-stroke-and-subsequent-inability-to-understand-words was running headlong into a race for one of the most demanding and high stress jobs in the world.

Sad, but not all that surprising.

I followed you, and you were correct. I can’t say if Alf didn’t correctly make his point or not. He’s always struck me as a good guy. That said, the “sounds fair” part makes a lot more sense when the minimum wage guy is heroically set upon at 6.2%, while the greedy bastard pays 0% because he makes $160k or more. That the greedy dude was relieved of nearly $10,000 of his hard earned money (plus another $10k from his employer) muddies the point a bit.

What I am thinking: I feel like I walked into a co-ed poindexter convention. Lots of hugs, coffee, gluten free muffins and blah blah blah. What I am saying: Gosh, it sounds like so much fun and the synergy is off the charts! 🤣 I’ve never been in Rotary, but know it’s a fine organization and accomplishes many, many great things. I have friends involved in local clubs, and it’s a natural for my business, can’t recall why I never joined. One thought though….inspiring the Hawk to follow the core values outside the club may result in only sporadic success. Mup, I meet and interact with those on the other end of the political spectrum with regularity, and agree with your sentiment, though we manage to get through some political talk as well. I’ve changed perspective or my own thought process as a result of some of these discussions. Respect is a two way street, it helps when there is a free flow of traffic. Thanks for hopping in Mup! @redtail hawk

Flirting wasn’t the issue, it was lack of focus on the mission statement and one potential reason that might have occurred. Then again, on the one hand you’re suggesting civility but on the other, you’re advocating for in-kind responses to people who might not ascribe to that ideal. The picture referenced won’t load for me, but that’s of little interest to me. I don’t assume when I order a Big Mac that every other person who visits McD’s orders one too, or that I have some particular political alliance with others that do. I just want a Big Mac. I’d think the most I can glean from a guy in an Auschwitz shirt is that the guy wore an Auschwitz shirt, which seems in incredibly poor taste and he would be a person I would steer clear of. On the other hand, people who hold a different political position than I do are often the type of people I enjoy speaking with. Beyond that, he could be an extremist on either spectrum, could be mentally ill, could be politically agnostic and just a rabble rousing sh&t stirrer looking for confrontation. If, just before the photo was snapped, he stopped and ordered a Big Mac, what can a person do? Hey, maybe the thing to do is ask one of those lady friends of yours for a perspective on Rotarian civility v When in Rome (which, btw wasn’t all cats in. comfy pajamas when that phrase what coined). I look to my friend @muppy for feedback from time to time. It helps.

You advocate a Rotarian approach to fairness, decency and goodwill right after you loaded up the Rs in hoods comments? I suggest less coffee and sweet-talking the ladies with your doctor talk, more focus on the value proposition once the meeting ends. The other board is a good one. I lurk there now and again, and have a general affection for many of the folks over there. That said, I’m a creature of habit and my habits die hard. Plus, I’m a screenwriter working on a story about a molecular biologist who wants to pretend to be an architect.

My word, how early do you hit the bottle, Red….or should I call you…DR?!

If everyone is someone else, is anyone really themself? This is the question that torments our occasionally unbalanced community member, it would seem.

How would I know? I never met either man. Btw I didn’t go around asking you if you faked quotes. Such things are not done in polite society.

I don’t make the rules, sir. Anything related to golf courses must be questioned. You’re on the list now, too. You were off it when you said the thing about Billsy and willful ignorance, but back on you go with this AHA stuff.

Other, lesser known quotes attributed to liberals: "If, through wealth, privilege, entitlement and connections to organized crime, I can become youngest President of the United States, have a threesome with a vulnerable Hollywood starlet and my youngah brothah Bobby, and have people worship me 60 yeahs after my death, who the *&^% wouldn't want to be Democrat? John F. Kennedy, Democrat *********** "Mary Jo, just hold your breath sweetie. I'll be back in 10 owwahs." Ted Kennedy, Democrat **********

The company that designs and constructs championship golf courses is off working on deals to design and construct a championship golf course. Ron Finkowski is a dummy, but knows how to rile up the simple folk.

Yes…yes, you’ve said all that before. I got you. Meanwhile, there are some really sick b@stards out there getting ready to tee up for the American Heart Association, the standard bearer for organized crime in the world. Willful ign’ance.

While you are here jerking around like a marionette on a French sound stage, in the world there are criminal elements laying up for a chip shot, driving their carts to and fro, and cleaning balls that do not need cleaning. Think man, think! You’re playing Putt Putt while Trump is a playing Par 5!

Yes…yes…RedTailHawk. The honest money is in Ukrainian Energy Companies and Acrylic on Canvas artwork. Hide in plain sight. Focus, BillSy, focus. There are forces that seek to divide, their names should not be mentioned here. I’m part of the Golf Course Liberation Movement. Codeword: Slice.