Bob in Mich

I recollect Sam Gash being such a devastating blocker that when he faked the block and instead went on a pattern, he was wide, wide open. Defenders wanted nothing to do him.

DR, like you suggested I went back and reviewed this thread - well, spot reviewed would be more accurate due to the length. Your debate with me is similar to debates you have had with a few others. These seem to follow a pattern. People respond to some post in this thread and find themselves being confronted by you or some Trump lawyer wannabe to show proof of Trump's misdeeds. Many of us have cited the same known facts. Generally we state much is still unknown and that time and/or the Mueller report will tell us more. At this point, you jump up and down and post some facts interlaced with some logical flaws. You claim that your tale is undeniable truth, get angry, and then claim the poster is a fool for not thinking for themselves. What you seem to be overlooking is that all of us that doubt your theory are in fact thinking for ourselves. Do you honestly not see the logical leaps that you make? For example you claim, 'Don Jr has not been charged with perjury so nothing illegal happened at Trump Tower and no lies were told.' Please, tell me you can see that you have made a leap there.

Even you must know not to crush one's meds. lol Maybe those news agencies will do just what you claim someday. Maybe you are on to something. Maybe you are right and there should never have been a Trump investigation. Carry on with your investigation. Time will reveal more and hopefully that includes the truth. I reserve the right to go back to not responding to you now.

Take a moment and imagine how the events go after the Mueller investigation is aborted in some manner. There is a large portion of the country that wants the investigation. Do you think they are just gonna say, 'oh well, guess we'll never know now' ? There would be another investigation I would think. The admin is not going to be clear of this issue if Mueller's investigation is halted before Mueller says he has finished. I would rather not have so much invested in a Republican investigator appointed by Republicans but it is currently the best hope for a non-partisan answer. Consider if these investigators were all dems appointed by dems. My God, Hannity would be standing on his desk every broadcast and some here would be dead of a stroke.

I will admit to not recollecting many details of the confrontation. If that confrontation does not belong in that list, remove it. Though, there is this older story. Again though, if it doesn't belong there, my bad. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1043236/Georgia-overrun-Russian-troops-scale-ground-invasion-begins.html

Oh, good. Glad to hear that now that your country has taken Crimea, eastern parts of the Ukraine, and shouldn't Georgia be in there somewhere too? Glad you guys are done taking land.

You quoted me so I will reply but otherwise, I would not have. From what I have seen/read, there seems there was some level of help to both camps though most that I hve seen concluded that the Russians favored Trump overall. My recollection of the events unfolding near the election is far from perfect but to me it seemed the discussions at the time were Abedin/Hillary/emails more so than dossier.

I don't think those are equal assumptions at all. Very easy for me to say there was at least one, far easier than estimating impact. As I said, I think actual numbers are unknowable. How many 'fence sitters' were there? I would say, not a vast amount as most were in their camp by election day, but in those close states maybe there was an impact. Again, why did Russia put in the effort? Nyet comrade I don't know enough Russian so I am going to write the rest in English. Don't feel compelled to respond to my posts.

Did you ever ask yourselves why Russia put effort into trying to impact the election? I would suggest that they did it to affect 'fence sitter' votes and to add to the divisive atmosphere. How many minds got changed is unknowable but to say there were none is not a realistic assumption.

http://www.countrymeadowcockers.com/ I know you aren't traveling to Michigan for your dog, but I owed it to Buddy to plug him and his breed. He is a terrific dog.

Jimmy Kimmel is keeping track of Trump's lies Pants of Fire : The Road to 2000 Lies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQruDaf7bKs or this one https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/01/10/president-trump-has-made-more-than-2000-false-or-misleading-claims-over-355-days/?utm_term=.c63d3da21f42

Well, 3rd tells me I should ignore Tom always. You say, I should not ignore Tom's comments. I prefer my choice of leaving him on ignore and on rare occasions, taking a shot he has something to say. Your experiences with Tom may be far different than mine. When I have read his comments he rarely had anything meaningful to add to the discussion. We live and learn and I have learned that if engaged he will only resort to insults. It is just like any 'friend' I suppose. If you enjoy his company, great, spend time with him. I don't enjoy his company. If his (ignored) comment convinces you that he wins, who gives a crap? I will not waste time on Tom nor do I understand the obsession with winning these board discussions. I truly could not care less about Tom's respect. If that means something to you, then continue to weather his crap. To me, it seems foolish to value the opinion of someone you feel is an idiot.

Ok Nanker, I will try. I just showed up here? I have been a member since 2001. You have been involved in the "Know anyone with a Disease' medical cannabis thread which has been active for years. So, I didn't just show up here. And, just because I don't try to rebut every silly comment or insult doesn't mean I don't see the humor or sarcasm. I find if I start getting into an insult battle, I don't enjoy the interaction intellectually as much as a legitimate idea exchange. Though, I can insult back and forth if that is necessary and I am having fun. Lectured you about what exactly? Medical cannabis? Yes, true, I have lectured about medical cannabis! I have endured a steady stream of insults in order to try to help some folks that may have run out of current medical options. I felt it may be helpful to try to inform folks that they may have another course with medical cannabis. Obviously that knowledge was lacking here. That thread began in 2014 and nearly everything I proclaimed possible with medical cannabis has been coming true. Sure, there aren't a lot of mainstream studies to link to but that is because the scientific community has been unable to do those studies. I think you are aware of that fact. This Trump and Russia thread, is that where I have been lecturing you? Don't think I have been lecturing anyone. I threw out some questions that I found troubling and I have been lobbying to many here that Mueller's Trump-Russia investigation should continue. I have also repeatedly stated that if there are problems with the FISA application process, we should investigate and prosecute where appropriate. That certainly isn't lecturing.

Ya know 3rd, if you aren't a bot you should become one.

Guess not. If you have been here any length of time on PPP, you know that Tom is a pompous prick. I don't know him 'in person' and no, he has never threatened me. He seems to feel compelled to post nearly every time I post anywhere, though not to engage in the discussion. Roughly 95% of his posts are little more than insults. I found it a far better experience to simply ignore him completely. As I said, occasionally when bored I have attempted to make a reasonable argument to a Tom post only to be met with his typical insults. Gets old. Truth be told, the 5% of his comments that may attempt to further a conversation are really not worth much either. I'll take the risk that I may miss something worth reading.

Doc, I agree with your post. That line does sort of sum up the state of affairs. What you may have missed is that pretty much that entire post of mine that you quoted was composed of insults that this poster, Westside, had thrown at me over the last page or so of this thread. From my perspective anyway, he had come out of the blue telling me that I disgusted him and that I needed to stop posting here because he didn't like my views. I didn't think that was very fair and thought I would use his own words against him to see if he thought that seemed reasonable. I was hoping he might see the irony.

Not to explode your tiny pea brain, but you don't represent me. You and your ilk disgust me. You are ruining the democratic party and you voted for Trump too? You need to leave because I disagree with your views and apparently that is all that is needed. So go....now!!!!!!! row_33, you make the strangest comments. Are you sure you aren't being paid to troll this board?

Too funny. Dude, I don't believe I have ever mentioned the Clintons in any of my posts. Possibly I am mistaken but it is not a topic I typically comment on. I don't like Hillary and strongly supported Bill's impeachment at the time. The last comment I recall making about Obama was in this thread. I stated that if the FISA investigation led to Obama or Abe Lincoln, prosecute them both. Second, I should go away because you don't like my opinions? Bite Me, fool! I was just about to leave too but now I can't.

That is hysterical. Thanks for the laugh, I needed that. It's appreciated. Care to explain that at all? I mean, like you, I cast one vote in the last election. How exactly did I take your party from you?

Tom has been on ignore for about 2 years now. Occasionally, if I'm bored, I will take the odd shot he has any thing worth reading. He's disappointed me without fail so far.

Here is the NYT author Matthew Rosenberg talking about his story. It does sound messy but he disagrees with Trump's interpretation of the story. (See at the 1:50 mark) https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/02/10/nyt-report-us-spies-paid-russian-matthew-rosenberg-sot-nr.cnn

Sorta seems to me (given the email below) that Rob Goldstone was involved setting up that Trump tower meeting. How is that not proof of his involvement recalling that Don Jr released this email trail? On Jun 7, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Rob Goldstone wrote: Don Hope all is well Emin asked that I schedule a meeting with you and The Russian government attorney who is flying over from Moscow for this Thursday. I believe you are aware of the meeting - and so wondered if 3pm or later on Thursday works for you? I assume it would be at your office. Best Rob Goldstone

Was it a high fever? I understand that can cause brain damage. a stroke? Or, seemingly more likely is that someone punched you in the head repeatedly given your smartass tone. Well, anyway, I feel bad for you. To have had intelligence and now, well, now....again I am sorry. Reminds me of the 'Flowers for Algernon' story where the character had great intelligence for a time only to helplessly watch it all slip away. A real shame. I will make a concerted effort to not challenge you any longer. i don't wish to 'win' or embarrass anyone. I was just trying to have an interesting conversation

You have demonstrated nothing of the sort. So, I am an idiot for not reading the entire book when page one is riddled with logical flaws and the author can't provide reasonable replies to questions? Yeah, OK. Weren't you the guy on here that claimed to be a genius? What in God's name happened?

Last post to you on this DR. When I saw all of the effort you put into your response, I felt I should go point by point and tell you why I disagree. But, the more I read, the more I got irritated with you. I don't need your insults. FU. I expect medical cannabis ignorance from a lot of the morons here, but someone who has or is using medical cannabis too, really is acting as an ignorant jerk to throw that at me as an insult. Again, FU Let's examine for a second why you are pissed and feel you need to insult me. Seems to be two things chiefly. First, I don't buy your horseshit theory. Why? The logical leaps you make. Unknowable events that may or may not be true, you make an assumption and run with it. I can't make those same leaps so I don't buy your theory. Your detailed explanations given by you when I questioned, were riddled with logical flaws. You keep repeating that everything you claim is provable fact. I disagree and the more you have tried to explain, the less I believe your theory. If that pisses you off, again FU. Second, you seemed upset that I didn't read the prior 140 pages in the thread before posting. I am guilty of that sin. I admit it but don't apologize. If you think that was wrong, again, FU. Why do I bring up Hannity? Because the only media person I see talking about your theory is Sean. He claims that he is not a journalist and cannot be held to journalistic standards. He is an entertainer. Why would no other media folks want to break these fantastic news stories that Hannity spouts everyday? Well, because most of what he spouts is BS as is most of what you are spouting, imo. It is not plausible to me that nearly the entire universe of media personnel are all in on this coup conspiracy. The much more believable theory is that you and Hannity are wrong. The main reason that I am done here is that for at least 3 pages I have been repeating myself. 1) The Mueller investigation should continue until Mueller says he has completed it. 2) If there were problems with the FISA warrant process, fix it and prosecute any violators. OUT