Bob in Mich

I don't want to take up a lot of your time. The Sabres game starts in 10 minutes after all. Could you just tick off or point me to some of this overwhelming contrary evidence?

Seemed pretty crazy that they were making divisive twitter and facebook posts too .... until yesterday.

So, what's the story 33, are you one of these agents of Russia sowing discord on this PPP message board? As you know, I have mentioned this before but did not really get your response. I began to wonder because so many of your posts seem very divisive. Not as in holding a strong opinion in a discussion, but sort of drive-by divisive, like to stir up the discussion. You also speak of and defend Russia more than anyone else I have seen here, seem to have a strong European knowledge, and use some less familiar vocabulary. I know some here have claimed you are Canadian and you may live in Canada, but that alone, if true, would not invalidate the question. Did you emigrate to Canada recently? You don't post like most Canadians, not to mention the supposed Russian language posts you exchange with 3rd. Now those seem like BS and 3rd doesn't appear smart enough to be recruited as an agent but you, you.......not so sure about you 33. To other posters, just be aware of the possibilities. Even if I am in left field about 33, there could be divisive forces on here. Lord knows discussions around here devolve quickly into insult contests. Any thoughts?

3rd, I know that is the administration story but there have been problems with apparent lies and backpedaling, right? At this point I cannot say I can take Don Jr at his word given the way the story has evolved.

Explain to me why it blows up the collusion narrative, if you would. Recall RR said, 'no collusion in THIS INDICTMENT'. The investigation continues with the Don Jr meeting still in play as the facet where collusion still may have taken place, imo. These indictments demonstrate pretty clearly, according to RR that in the period immediately prior to the 2016 election, the Russians attempted to influence in favor of Mr Trump, right? After the election they played both sides against each other but before they sided with Trump over Clinton. So many posters here keep chanting 'no evidence of collusion' but c'mon, that should stop now. Certainly there is insufficient proof shown but there are undeniable indications now that the Russians wanted to aid Mr Trump and indications from Trump Tower, that Trump's people were willing to hear out the Russians offer. That is most definitely not all of the pieces but it is two key pieces

Mostly words on this site. No artistic eye needed - just your words can sow discord here. So, are you a paid troll?

33, you never replied to my questions about whether you were one of these paid Russian trolls we heard about. What's the story there?

I am not ignoring that they may have helped Bernie before settling on Trump. What's the point, aside from a 'yeah but whatabout'?

C.mon, how many more Benghazi hearings will be needed to really get to the truth? Could be we have gotten the truth and the investigations didn't lead to Hillary's prosecution. Not everyone wishing the Trump investigation to continue would ignore crimes of past administrations, btw. I was strongly in favor of impeaching Bill Clinton back when for instance. The Russia story is undergoing investigation now. I just hate to see people close their eyes and say, "Shut down Mueller. I don't want to see. Trump misdeeds are fake news." Hopefully we can learn the truth in far less than the, what was it - 8 Benghazi hearings.

Ah, thanks Wetside. Means a great deal coming from you. I was just commenting on the idea that it was like accidentally spilling a beer. Maybe it wasn't the best one to run with

You make a good point. Under Obama the divide certainly widened a great deal.

Gee, maybe they could have some sort of congressional hearings to see what happened there at Benghazi

I can't tell what that means. Care to explain? Just to repeat, my point was that the 'yeah whatabouts' are just an attempt to turn the discussion from the prior point. This is not to say you are bringing up invalid points. The point may be valid but during this discussion you are using that a tool to avoid the prior point. If you want to actually have a reasonable discussion, that sort of 'yeah whatabout' crap is worse than useless, it discourages honest discussions.

If you want to have a real discussion, stop with the 'yeah but whatabouts'

Timing means a lot here. What I heard was that the primary goal was to sow discord and to promote divisiveness. PRIOR to the November 2016 election, the Russians favored Trump. After all, Trump as our president has certainly promoted divisiveness. Then, AFTER the election, in order to continue to promote divisions, the Russians promoted rallies for and against Trump. The anti Trump rallies were not leading into the election.

So, what's the story 33, are you one of these agents of Russia sowing discord on this PPP message board? As you know, I have mentioned this before but did not really get your response. I began to wonder because so many of your posts seem very divisive. Not as in holding a strong opinion in a discussion, but sort of drive-by divisive, like to stir up the discussion. You also speak of and defend Russia more than anyone else I have seen here, seem to have a strong European knowledge, and use some less familiar vocabulary. I know some here have claimed you are Canadian and you may live in Canada, but that alone, if true, would not invalidate the question. Did you emigrate to Canada recently? You don't post like most Canadians, not to mention the supposed Russian language posts you exchange with 3rd. Now those seem like BS and 3rd doesn't appear smart enough to be recruited as an agent but you, you.......not so sure about you 33. To other posters, just be aware of the possibilities. Even if I am in left field about 33, there could be divisive forces on here. Lord knows discussions around here devolve quickly into insult contests. Any thoughts?

Yeah, I suppose...if that fan then fell backwards over the glass, onto the ice, KO'd the goalie, and deflected the puck into the net for a goal.

Anyone ever called you an arrogant blowhard? Just curious because if you talk like you write it seems like you would have heard that one a lot. Want to point out a particular argument that I made so poorly? Might be helpful so I could look back and try to bring myself up to board standards. Your arguments aren't nearly as bulletproof as you'd like to believe. I have pointed out a lot of your flawed statements and you don't seem to appreciate that. How come?

"Smartest man in the room" You didn't answer me, are you an elementary school teacher? That is the only way I can imagine this claim is possible. Geez, please tell me you don't have that up on a sign in your toddler's classroom. That would not be right.

GG, I am trying to avoid the insult exchange, believe it or not. If you have questions, rhetorically, why am I compelled to research and answer them? Did you watch the video? Was that question not addressed in the 18 charts?

If you've got a point, don't be shy. Speak up If you are asking me to look into this and report back. No

GG, surely culture is in the equation as are a number of factors but the number of guns is the overriding reason that the US has far more gun violence. Many similar cultures have far lower gun violence rates. This video dives into the numbers better than I could. The state of gun violence in the US https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX4qUsgHa4Y

If you don't think the difference in gun violence between the US and other countries is the guns, you are doubtless a dumb !@#$k

The argument that a highly determined person will shoot up the school regardless of laws is not really a sound reason to do nothing. Why not make it a very difficult thing to do? Maybe someone less mentally capable, wealthy, or determined will be stymied. Why not put time delays in the process to maybe allow someone to calm down? To say nothing should be done because that fix wouldn't stop everyone is something a dumb!@#$ would say..

It's the economy, stupid! Oh wait, no. I meant it's the guns That is the difference