Shamrock

This guy must be one of the best "busts" of all time that noone even mentions him. Aundrey Bruce. Falcons. Rd 1, Pick 1. 1988. Does the Lions GM Matt Millen count for the last 5 years drafts, or the organisation for not getting rid of this draft genius... at least Donohoe got sacked...

FACTOIDS: ---For the record, DE Schobel is 262, Kelsay is 275, and Denney is 275. ---We haven't drafted a DE in 4 years. ---Schobel is the only drafted Bills player left from the class of 2001. ---Our DE's were all drafted in the 2nd Round (2003: Pick 16 Chris Kelsay, 2002: Pick 29 Ryan Denney, 2001: Pick 15 Aaron Schobel). Marcellus Wiley was also a Round 2 pick (1997). Sean Moran was a 4th Rounder in 1996. The only other DE in the last 11 years was Bryce Fisher as 7th Rounder in 1999. ---Bruce Smith was 265. The Great 2000 DE draft is well forgotten. Flowers Rd 1 pick 26...was a bulked up DE from 240 to the 260 range. Corey Moore (LB...but Outland Trophy as DE?) Rd 3 Larsen...cough, cough, but a 7th and moved inside, or was an inside...can't remember. ...sorry for this addition.

I was going to post this. It was a freakin' great run, all the way with spins and everything. Still have it on tape.

Nickname. Remember Ken Shamrock...

Remember, the Lions are one of the few teams that have never even been to a Super Bowl, let alone winning one. You think Mel? Wow, get back to me when a team wins a Super Bowl without getting to one.

Ellison - regardless of his size Ellison is exactly what DJ is looking for in this defense.......he is reading and reacting while he is running TOWARDS the line of scrimmage......he has a full head of steam by the time he gets there and more often then not he is making the play, in on the play, or around the play. I still hope we see a bigger Ellision this next year but this guy might EXPLODE on the scene. The concern with Ellison is obviously his statistical size (and being a late pick: low risk, high reward draft guy), but from 1 game you've obviously taken a positive viewing. Any negatives noted...more to balance the assessment. The positives of recognition, assaulting the play at the line maybe perhaps the defensive alignment and youthful enthusiasm to hit with steam do they outweigh say perhaps what size would detract from, obviously at the point or shedding conclusions? How did he cope with plays away, running down through the line...that sort of thing? Thanks

Least: MW Most: How long can this list be. Also, isn't it Darrick Holmes, not Derrick?

I voted Ko. Would hve put Ashton but have no idea what he looks like. Hoping this situation changes this year. Sorry, back from the pub and finding the typing difficult

Here in Oz they actually make us call it "Football" now...keep up

Australia punches above it's weight per capita for sporting status...

2...even though the 3 wins in 4 years by the Pats is arguably a more noterworthy achievement, I doubt 4 straight even as a loser will be repeated. Damn them Cowboys as well: '92, '93 and '95. Maybe this 3 wins in 4 years is achievable (damn $#%& Cowboys)

...um, fish. By the way, anyway read of the Aussie ab' diver that got taken head first, down to the waist by a 3-4 meter juvenile Great White this week? Man won that fight. Sign him Marv. Get 'er done.

The past three years marked the first time since early in Gilbride's career he had been solely a quarterbacks coach instead of handling coordinator duties as well. He found he missed the challenge of focusing on the bigger picture. ...Wow, Killdrive worked out there's a bigger picture. Congratulations. "I certainly enjoyed the last three weeks where I was able to envision a game unfold and be able to think through what the responses would be," he said. "It was an exciting time for me to be able to get back into it from that standpoint. You're the guy who's ultimately responsible for the success or failure of your offensive unit." ...It was fun pretending. Actually, i'm going to Sh$% myself next year when it's for real. At least as much of that responsibility rests on quarterback Eli Manning, the player with whom Gilbride has been most closely associated since Manning was acquired in 2004. In his second full season as a starter, Manning's progress was punctuated by inconsistent play. ...and Killdrive was brought in to ahem, correct this? Gilbride expressed confidence in his quarterback and said the offseason would be spent focusing on avoiding the mistakes that have plagued Manning over the last two seasons. The Giants are expected to hire a new quarterbacks coach in the coming weeks. Killdrive has a large body of work with the emphasis on mistakes. "You've seen some of the ups and downs of other guys in playoff games, and you saw what he did in our playoff game, and you can see he's right up there at the top with the people he's competing with at the position," Gilbride said. "The biggest thing with him is staying away from catastrophic plays that are momentum-killers. So it's really the consistency thing." Killdrive should be able to consistently show Elli how to make those catastrophic momemtum killers. The offense Gilbride takes over will be without retired running back Tiki Barber, the team's all-time rushing leader. It also lacked a big-play threat at wide receiver to complement Plaxico Burress after Amani Toomer was lost for the season with a knee injury in early November. Hmm, i never thought that Barber was one of those psychics, John Edwards need a retired RB? Gilbride said the Giants hope to add a running back through the draft or free agency who will vie for playing time alongside Brandon Jacobs. ...but that as it wont cloud his playcalling, he really doesn't care what happens...

Ah, the days of Soprano are sorely missed... ... ... ...Not

Um, anyone know if Tank has this guys number? http://www.bigpond.com/news/breaking/conte...105/1822271.asp

Yep.

Hansen overrated? Um, by who? "If not for the fact that he played at a division II school, Phil Hansen would have been a first round draft pick," proclaimed Bills General Manager Bill Polian. Oh? Polian may know a thing or too... He was named to the all-Rookie team, not a bad thing to accomplish, notably when Bruce was injured that year... As soon as Bruce was gone his inadequacies were exposed...did you even watch Phil Hansen play? So Bruce left after 1999 and Hansen retired in 2001... Did you follow the Bills 2000 and 2001? I guess not, that's why this thread is here. The guy was solid, not stellar. Quote that. His career numbers would support that. Now, what were you saying about AS?

You should have seen how terrified I was at this announcement from the League prior to departing from across the Pacific!

Subsequently our run defense improves

[but we need LINES !!!!!! 877089[/snapback] These party drugs are everywhere...i'll just have a beer after this loss.

I'm sorry, from where is the ESPN commentary located...indoors or on the 45 at Buffalo?

...taking business advice from Buddy now Hammer Agh, at least its from a Beagle

I think i've done my bit coming from Australia to see a Bills game this year. Is that not "fan" enough?

G'day mate. About every 2-3 years: 1998, 2000, 2002, 2004 and this year. Yep, it's hellava commute... hope Sydney was kind to you

I remember an article about former 1st round pick Dimitrius Underwood doing self harm in Miami some years ago, also suffering Bipolar. Can they ban Spellman from flying? Freaky incident though. Was he flying economy- how'd he fit?