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Thai is plenty logical to me, but I’ll add that 17 has to sign off on the coach. If I’m him, I’m not splitting time on opposite coasts convincing my wife to spend a solid three months a year on a gray atmosphere that is super conducive to football and work but not great for someone used to a different lifestyle who can’t work here UNLESS it’s worth it. Worth it has to mean good culture and fun on and off the field. It’s probably why guys like Knox are still here (although I have it on good authority he was shopped prior to the deadline). Those thoughts lead me to someone proven (say Matt LaFleur if he gets canned) or much more likely someone familiar (Daboll or, here it is from left field, Davis Webb).

Agreed. And I really think McSchottenheimer is safe. If I’ve learned one thing about Sean, it’s that he will sacrifice others to save himself. The no show on 13 seconds. Canning Farwell and then Dorsey. DC changes. If the pattern persists, the next logical sacrifice is … the GM.

Schoen and this is where it gets tough. Probably Daboll, and I recognize the insanity of taking the guys the Giants fired. But I don’t know that I’d swap out both GM and coach. If it’s one or the other, then it’s easy. Beane is gone. He fell in love with his guys and did a lot of overpaying and frankly missed too much. This years WR room did it for me.

Top of the drop is a great point. He hits it now and with the exception of Kincaid nobody is open.

Also the field is more condensed with the tight splits and lack of wideouts,

I agree with a lot of this, except for blaming it solely on Biden. If we want to talk seriously for a moment, both Trump and Biden are responsible for inflation. Pent up demand (Trump), low supply (Trump, and later Biden), and then free money (Trump) led to a problem that was not adequately resolved (Biden) and arguably compounded with additional free money (Biden). This idiotic talk of more free money (Trump) isn't going to help anything, and trying to address the rate issue (now Trump, due to economic factors of mutual responsibility) through a friggin 50-year mortgage isn't going to solve any of the issues that you raised.

What McDermott didn't say was "no." Which, in turn, says it all.

I thought more about this. We should “Andre Holmes” this guy as soon as Gave is ready. Make an example of him. We don’t do his ess here. Adios.

This is what happens when you have a $14m QB. We don’t, so we should rely on that guy to overcome weaknesses elsewhere. But we play slow and under center and make no effort to attack in that way.

Balance is the key. We’re not there. Also, we can be balanced without neutering 17.

It’s as dumb as it sounds. Let’s take a once in many lifetimes QB, pay him $55m, stick him under center, run a ton of 13, take him totally out of rhythm, and intentionally try to limit the number of possessions we give him. We’re playing a style teams on a rookie QB contract or mid level starter should use, meaning that the balance of our roster will be of lesser quality. It’s so friggin dumb it boggles the mind. That’s it. Discuss.

This non answer says it all. I respect the fact that McD didn’t burn him in public. But all I had to do was say no. He didn’t. So there is an issue.

Get this guy the eff out of here. He dogged it yesterday.

I understand what you’re saying and that is pretty damning re McShottenheimer.

What’s your point? He failed, and then succeeded. Seems like a strange issue to contest.

Really? Belichick sucked in CLE. Marv sucked in KC, too. I’m not saying that Daboll or anyone else is the next BB. I am, however, making the point that people can and do learn from failure. I heard it wasn’t as frosty as it’s been. Maybe around the time of Josh’s wedding. But who knows. McD might see him as a threat now and this might have to be driven by Josh.

Maybe. You could well be right. But are we winning a Super Bowl with this group? I don’t think so. The last month of trash and malaise tells me it’s time to think about what’s next.

He was coach of the year. And sometimes people have to fail before they succeed. Marv, Belichick, Andy Reid, whatever. It’s more common in life than the Sean McVay route, in my view.

Kind of like an alcoholic. Has that anger in him, which is not surprising giving the upbringing. But he is a good dude, and a super nice guy off the field. Also a loyal guy. Some people are demanding and tough to work with. I like guys like that. And I like Daboll.

I can share that the fallout of the immediate aftermath of 13 seconds was that bad. Heard about it from someone on the flight. Like “we might have to land the plane” bad. Jerry Hughes was one the guys going berserk. Personally, I think McD is our Tampa Tony Dungy. Class guy, excellent head coach, but not going to get this group to the finish line and it’s time to go. My major criticism of him as a leader is that he should have owned 13 seconds, and he’s kind of a phony for not doing so. Leadership 101, and he failed.

I’m not arguing with you. Just thinking like them. I want Daboll back here. We need a new voice, and someone whom Josh respects. McD is not going to win a Super Bowl here. Maybe somewhere else, and maybe we regret moving on. But it’s not happening here, and I’d rather not squander the rest of Josh’s career with the crapfest we’ve seen the last month.

He’s a mess now for sure. But pretend you’re the Pegulas. For whom are they nuking Sean, who has a lengthy, rich contract and is another bill to pay (no pun) while fronting huge money for a stadium. Unless Josh says him or me, they aren’t dumping him for just anyone. Belichick is one of the only people I can think of for whom they might make the move. (I wouldn’t, FTR, but I’m trying to think like them.)

I bet Brian is back in town sooner than later. Whether he’s working for the Bills remains to be seen. Maybe he can buy Rapp’s house when Rapp is inevitably jettisoned. (Same neighborhood as Daboll’s old place and he still comes back in the summers.)

Right now the two of them need each other.

I was actually thinking about that this morning. That might be something the pegulas do, because belichick would work cheap. I still don’t see them moving in from McSchottenheimer unless Josh puts his foot down.